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Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby costarica4 » 26 Mar 2010, 18:43

I'm looking for information on the surname Seghini (later changed to Saghini)

The information I know so far is:

Napoleon Seghini was married to Maria Cerulli.
Born in the early 1800s.
Possibly from northern Italy, maybe Milan or Genoa.
Napoleon emmigrated to Buenos Aires, Argentina where the surname changed to Saghini for children's names. Known child is Cesar Saghini.

Thank you for any help.

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 27 Mar 2010, 08:14

Don't know if you already have their immigration records:

Buenos Aires arrivals:

Cognome
SEGHINI
Nome
NAPOLEONE
Parentela
Età
36
Sesso
M
Stato civile
Sposato/a (married)
Professione
JORNALERO
Religione
Cattolico
Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA
Nave
URUGUAY1
Data d'arrivo
29-09-1884
Istruzione
Sa
Classe


Cognome
SEGHINI
Nome
MARIA
Parentela
Età
26
Sesso
F
Stato civile
Sposato/a
Professione
JORNALERO
Religione
Cattolico
Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA
Nave
URUGUAY1
Data d'arrivo
29-09-1884
Istruzione
Sa
Classe

Cognome
SEGHINI
Nome
ALFREDO
Parentela
Età
1
Sesso
M
Stato civile
Celibe/Nubile
Professione
Religione
Cattolico
Porto d'imbarco
GENOVA
Nave
URUGUAY1
Data d'arrivo
29-09-1884
Istruzione
Senza indicazione
Classe

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 27 Mar 2010, 08:16

is this cesar Saghini related to your family?

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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Cesar Saghini
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth: 26 SEP 1911 , Cordoba, Argentina

Christening:
Death: 10 JAN 1968

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Cesar Saghini
Mother: Argenida Montenegro De Saghini
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Marriages:

Marriage: 25 MAR 1940 , Buenos Aires, Argentina


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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby costarica4 » 27 Mar 2010, 14:53

Thank you so much! It looks like this may be correct. And, Yes Cesar Saghini is my grandfather. Thank you for the information.

Is there any information beyond Napoleon Seghini, perhaps parents or grandparents?

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby PeterTimber » 27 Mar 2010, 16:15

You need to know the town of origin in Italy since this is where most records can be found and little more elsewhere.

Once youy know the town of origin then you can go to this website
www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/it ... tters.html for documents. =Peter=
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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby costarica4 » 27 Mar 2010, 17:06

Thank you for your help.

The town of origin is believed to be in northern Italy, possibly Milan. I have seen several Seghini families from Piacenza, Italy, but have no connection between them and Napoleon Seghini. I would like to try to find ancestors of Napoleon Seghini.

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby PeterTimber » 27 Mar 2010, 20:33

yOU NEED THE SPECIFIC CITY, TOWN OR EVEN A SMALL VILLAGE OF ORIGIN THAT HAS A ZIP CODE IN ORDER TO OBTAIN THE DOCUMENTS.=Peter=
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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby costarica4 » 28 Mar 2010, 06:01

I have found some information on possible Seghini ancestors in the town of Borgo di Bettola, Piacenza, Emilia-Romagna, Italy. I know that they are from somewhere near Milan and this town may be the one. I still do not have a link between Napoleon Seghini and Battista Seghini (assuming there is a link at all). The timing seems as if Battista could possibly be the grandfather of Napoleon. Does anyone have information on these people or know where I could find more information?


Battista Seghini
Birth:
1757
Borgo di Bettola, Piacenza, Emilia-Romagna, Italy

Marriage(s)
Spouse: Catterina Grondoni
Birth: 1775
Marriage: bef Oct 1806
Borgo di Bettola, Piacenza, Emilia-Romagna, Italy


Parents
Father: Giuseppe Seghini
Birth: abt 1725
Borgo di Bettola, Piacenza, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Marriage: bef 1757
Spouse: Unknown

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2010, 09:27

Have you already collected all the argentinian vital records about your ancestros? Do you have Napoleone's death certificate? It may have listed his place of birth...

from the free site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

the 1895 census for the Seghini family, living in Buenos Aires:

Seguini Napoleon, male, 37, married, born in Italy, farmer
Charoli Maria, female, 37, married since 17 years, mother of 9 children, born in IT
Seguini Alfredo, 12, born in IT
Seguini Cesar, male, 10, born in Buenos Aires
Seguini Angel, male, 5, born in BA
Seguini Aldo, male, 3, born in BA
Seguini Victorio, male, 1, born in BA
Seguini Leticio, male, 1, born in BA

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http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqpZaTr

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2010, 10:35

After a better search on the 1895 census I found that your Ancestor's family was living in Buenos Aires here:

"Secion de Policia 15 - Subdivision Censal o Manzana 55"

From this pdf document you'll see that the "Manzana 55" was:

http://genargentina.com.ar/pdfs/censo-1895.pdf

Seccion 15:
- Tomo 566 - Manzana 55 - (Calle Vicente Lopez)


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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby costarica4 » 28 Mar 2010, 14:09

Thank you so much pink67. I had vague details about this based on the memory of family members, but never had exact information.

I have not collected any Argentinian records. I'm not quite sure where to look. What are the best resources for this online or do I have to contact someone directly in Argentina?

My stumbling block seems to be in not knowing where Napoeleon Seghini was born. I haven't been able to go any further than that. It's been difficult to find clear documentation of his birth or parents.

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2010, 14:50

I would advise you to ask for first for death records in Argentina, the records may have listed the place of origin and then start to look for Italy records...
It seems Seghini is a rare lastname:

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html

digit "Seghini" in Cognome...

Today on the italian white pages you can find only 46 Seghini in all Italy:

http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... =&dv=&ind=

from the link I posted before:

http://genargentina.com.ar/pdfs/censo-1895.pdf

..."recordemos que, para esa epoca (1895) ya funcionaba el Registro Civil (creado en 1866 en Capital Federal)..."

Maybe asking for Death certificates for Napoleone and his wife could be helpful...

on this site you can find helpful links:

http://www.apellidositalianos.com.ar/

click on "archivos por pais" ont the left side of the web.page and then Argentina....

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 30 Apr 2010, 06:23

I just noticed that the free site:

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tart.html#

has now also a searchable database for Baptism in Argentina, I found this record:

Luisa Linda Seghini Cerulli
Baptism June 26, 1898
Baptism/Christening place: Recoleta-Distrito federal-Argentina
Father's name: Napoleon Seghini
Mother's name: Maria Cerulli

At least you now know which was the area where they lived in Buenos Aires....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoleta

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby costarica4 » 01 May 2010, 00:09

Once again, thank you Laura. I know that Napoleon and Maria had several children that were not born as of the 1895 census.

Father
Napoleon Seghini (1858 - ?)

Mother
Maria Cerulli (1858 - ?)

Children
Alfredo (1883 - ?)
Cesar (1885 - 1958)
Angel (1890 - ?)
Aldo (1892- ?)
Victorio (1894, Twin)
Leticio (1894, Twin)
Domingo
Linda


I have still been unable to find the birthplace of Napoleon. I hope to find either his death record in Argentina or birth record from Italy.

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Re: Looking for information on Seghini (Saghini)

Postby pink67 » 02 May 2010, 15:52

The dates of the baptism of Luisa:

Luisa Linda Seghini Cerulli
Baptism June 26, 1898
Baptism/Christening place: Recoleta-Distrito federal-Argentina
Father's name: Napoleon Seghini
Mother's name: Maria Cerulli


are on this film number:
1089305

I did a reverse search for the film number and found out that it's from:

Film or fiche number
1089305

Film/fiche search results
Registros parroquiales, 1830-1930 Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora del Pilar (Recoleta, Distrito Federal)

http://www.basilicadelpilar.org.ar/notas.html

You should request a copy of this Baptism act, it may have listed Luisa's parents places of birth, or you should request a research for Napoleone's defunction act, or search it by yourself by checking this microfilm:

Title Registros parroquiales, 1830-1930
Authors Iglesia Católica. Nuestra Señora del Pilar (Recoleta, Distrito Federal) (Main Author)

Defunciones 1892-1916
VAULT INTL Film 1089319

Hoping that Napoleone died in this time frame :wink:

Checking the same database (Argentina Baptism 1645-1930) on the site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

I noticed there is another interesting record:

Celina Carolina Seghini Rovero
Baptism: 30 December 1899
Baptism/Christening place: Recoleta, Distrito Federal Argentina
Father's name: Angel Seghini
Mother's name: Carolina Rovero


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