How to find illigitimate descendants of famous Italians

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How to find illigitimate descendants of famous Italians

Postby ihatobu » 02 Apr 2010, 04:11

My mother's family (Spano) is rumored to be related to the famous Sforza family, through an illigitimate child or grandchild of the famous diplomat and politician Count Carlo Sforza (1872-1952). My sister and I are trying to find out whether or not this is true, but illigitimate off-spring are difficult to trace through legal and government records.

Can anyone offer any advice on how to approach this? How would you go about this? As far as I know, we don't have any names at all other than Count Sforza's.

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Re: How to find illigitimate descendants of famous Italians

Postby johnnyonthespot » 02 Apr 2010, 11:34

DNA testing?

If you can find a true descendant of Count Sforza who is willing to give some up for comparison purposes, you would probably be able to rule the possibility out entirely or rule it in with a reasonably high degree of probability.

There may be other ways to get the comparison DNA. There was a recent thread on DNA testing, here: http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... t=dna.html
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Re: How to find illigitimate descendants of famous Italians

Postby PeterTimber » 02 Apr 2010, 15:22

Tyhe Spano surname is very common and found in 609 cities,towns and villages and further, spread out to every corner of Italy and Sicily!!! so your research objectives are formidible.

However if you are highly motivated then go to:
www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/fr ... earch.html and start there. Lots of luck. Get back to us if you run into a bricvk wall!!. =Peter=
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Re: How to find illigitimate descendants of famous Italians

Postby carinthiangirl » 02 Apr 2010, 21:48

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Sforza
the Sforza are descendants of a mercenary/condottiere with rustic orgin named Giacomo or Muzio Attendolo, sometimes also named Giacomuzzo. he later has taken the name Sforza (= conquer, force). he was born in Cotignola at the Romagna in June 1369. he became the leader of an adventurers-gang , who had kidnapped him. he fought for Perugia, Milano and Florence, was captain in Naples for queen Johanna II, fought for the Spains and served for the pope Martin V who made him an earl. he was drown in the river Pescara in 1424 at a campaign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condottiero
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzio_Sforza
then his illegitim son Francesco Sforza - on of 7 illegitimes (* 1401, † 1466) has taken the commando. he served for the Visconti against Venice, then for Venice against the Visconti (like mercenaries do), then attacked the pope, droved him of the Romagna and defended him later..... and so on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Sforza

don´t think people with illegitime lines will let make others DNA-tests of them to proof their relationship. most time illigetime fathers are not stated on certificates of their children. as all starts at the first Sforza with 7 illegitime children, how will you find out? maybe you can find out which of this 7 lines you belong about histories for the Sforza stated anywhere in archives. or was again illegitim more in "modern times"?


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