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COLANGELO - COLETTA

Postby colanglo » 05 Apr 2010, 18:31

Hi all, I'm attempting to research my husband's Italian surname with very little to go on. So you help is greatly appreciated.

Nicolo "Nick" Colanelo b. Feb 06, 1876 in Naples (according to Nick) and died Mar 19 1951 in Welch, McDowell County, West Virginia.


A marriage record for Nick lists his parents a Giovanni (or possibly Gionni) Balisto Colangelo and Fortunata/oto Coletta. According to his first marriage record Nick was born about 1881. Judging by his second marriage record he was born about 1879. For my records I chose to use the date of birth found on his WW1 Draft Registration Card.

The 1910 census lists year of immigrations as 1902 and the 1920 census list it as 1898, which I believe to be correct. Nick either said he traveled to the US with an uncle or he was met by an uncle after he got to the US. I found a passenger list for a Nicola Colangelo b. abt. 1877 arriving May 22 1893 in New York from Napoli.

Nick often mentioned two brothers he called "Tony" and "Charles". Nick was visited one time by a nephew named Joe/Joseph Colangelo. I'm not sure which brother Joe belonged to.

Nick said one of his brother moved to Missouri or Minnesota and the other stayed in the New York/New Jersey area.
I have been trying to find Joe/Joey/Joseph Colangelos with hopes of making a connection but so far have failed.

We know Nick had other siblings including a sister named Madeline. And there was mention of Nick having a twin.

Often names are passed down the through the family so I wanted to share the names of his children:
1. Sarah Madeline (Sarah was Nick's mother-in-laws name; Madeline his sisters name)
2. Johnny Gilbert (Named after Nick's father)
3. Charles Henry (Nick mentioned a brother named Charles)
4. Donald Gordon (died in the war)
5. Abner Blaine
6. Nickolas Eugene (named after Nick of course)
7. Narvel York
8. Lucian Asbury
9. Hal Cody or Coty (possibly one words such as Halcody)

I know this isn't a ton of info to give anyone to work with but it's all I have right now. I deeply appreciate any leads, hunches, and really good guesses.
Thanks!!!

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Re: COLANGELO - COLETTA

Postby Michael31 » 07 Apr 2010, 01:36

http://www.paginebianche.it/index_en.html
Colangelo Napoli
Colangelo NA (province of Napoli/ Naples)
Coletta Napoli
Coletta NA

narrow search with first names
Maddalena, Antonio, Carlo, Giuseppe, Nicola

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Re: COLANGELO - COLETTA

Postby colanglo » 07 Apr 2010, 03:15

Thanks for the info but I don't understand how today's white pages are gonna be of any help to me. :?

Joe/Joseph was born in the US and his name is actually "Joseph" and not the Italian variation.

Not really sure what all this is:
Colangelo Napoli
Colangelo NA (province of Napoli/ Naples)
Coletta Napoli
Coletta NA
Since it's all you gave me. But I do appreciate your time and efforts. The reason I posted here is because I know NOTHING about Italian genealogy.
I'm not trying to be rude but I have no clue what I'm suppose to do with the info you gave me.
I do know that the names I listed are the American variation of the Italian names and assumed other Italian researchers would know that as well. I have noted the info you gave me and will use it when I can.
Thanks so much.

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Postby Michael31 » 07 Apr 2010, 03:41

www.pilot.familysearch.org
Groom's name: Nicolo Colangelo
Groom's age:
Groom's estimated birth year:
Groom's birth date:
Groom's birthplace:
Bride's name: Lula Holloway
Bride's age:
Bride's estimated birth year:
Bride's birth date:
Bride's birthplace:
Event type: Marriage
Marriage date: 1907
Marriage place: Mcdowell, West Virginia, United States
Groom's father's name:
Groom's mother's name:
Father of bride's name:
Mother of bride's name:
Marital status:
Groom's previous wife's name:
Bride's marital status:
Bride's previous husband's name:
Film number: 806428
Digital GS number: 4230039
Image number: 00303
Reference number:
Source: County Records
Collection: West Virginia Marriages 1853-1970

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Postby Michael31 » 07 Apr 2010, 04:23

www.ellisislandrecords.org
Nicola Colangelo
last residence: Salla
arrived: May 22,1893
age: 16
Ship: Burgundia
port: Naples
manifest line number: 0387

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Postby colanglo » 07 Apr 2010, 05:52

Thanks. I have paper copies of those records.

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Postby vj » 07 Apr 2010, 14:03

Hello!
I was reviewing family pages on ancestry that may belong to you?
Very nice research and great pictures :D .
Nicolo's father's name may have been Giovanni Battista Colangelo
Records in Italy are wonderfully complete, but almost all of them are kept at the comune (town) of birth. Since his ship manifest is pretty early, it doesn't list Nicolo's place of birth.
If you can't find his town mentioned in any of his or his siblings US records, you may have to guess and start writing to the most likely comunes.
note: based on the previous page of the 1893 manifest, Nicolo's last residence may have been Salle, a comune and town in the Province of Pescara in the Abruzzo region.
Valarie

for reference:
possible 1893 manifest, line 3
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8329/1893.jpg
previous page
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2502/189301.jpg

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Postby colanglo » 07 Apr 2010, 16:59

Valarie, thank you so much!!! I have noted all the info you gave me and will attempt to locate a birth record for Nick. I attempted the Italian side of my husband's family once before and it got the best of me...lol I'm gonna do my best to whip it this go around.

I really do appreciate your help.
Hugs & prayers,
Drema

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Postby vj » 07 Apr 2010, 17:18

Hello Drema :D

Since you know Nicolo's father's name
You could try hunting for his siblings by looking for their children named John
Just in case you aren't familiar with naming patterns:
There has been a strong custom in Italy that determines how children are named:

The first male is named after his paternal grandfather.
The second male is named after his maternal grandfather.
The first female is named after her paternal grandmother.
The second female is named after her maternal grandmother.

http://www.italiangenealogy.com/News/ar ... id=22.html
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It took our family years, but we finally found our town in an old newspaper clipping that one of the relatives had - it stated our g-grandfather was traveling to Donnici to visit relatives.
After that it was amazing how much information we found, including that he had brother who had moved to the US!
If we had found his brother first, we would have found the town sooner - it was on his brother's records :wink: .

Good luck, Valarie

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Postby colanglo » 07 Apr 2010, 20:57

Thanks so much! I'm trying to decide where to start searching now...lol I'm excited and nervous all at the same time. Your help means the world to me and my husband.

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Postby vj » 07 Apr 2010, 23:10

Oh my!
Thank you :D
We have quite a few members here that may be able to offer other ideas.
You just never know what record you'll find that will hold the clue to finding the town of origin
Valarie

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Postby wldspirit » 08 Apr 2010, 09:38

Looking at the records, in 1920 he is listed as an Alien, but the census of 1930 list him as Naturalized, only a ten year span and since he did stay within the same state, have you searched for Naturalization records?
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Postby wldspirit » 08 Apr 2010, 10:05

You mentioned he may have had a nephew named Joseph, perhaps this is the nephew.....?? Could be a long shot, but also list wife's name:

death record for daughter of Joseph
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Postby vj » 08 Apr 2010, 14:05

wldspirit wrote:Looking at the records, in 1920 he is listed as an Alien, but the census of 1930 list him as Naturalized, only a ten year span and since he did stay within the same state, have you searched for Naturalization records?


Hello wldspirit :D !
What a terrific idea, since his naturalization may have occurred between 1920 and 1930 there's a good chance his papers will contain his arrival information and town of birth.

Drema :D
This is the only reference I could find to the WV records
http://www.wvculture.org/history/natural.html
Valarie
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Just in case you need a bit more information:

home page to the FamilySearch, LDS website
(Family History Centers of the Genealogical Society of Utah)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp
we can help with how to order microfilm if needed

and some information about Naturalization records
http://genealogy.about.com/cs/naturaliz ... ecords.htm

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Re: COLANGELO - COLETTA

Postby colanglo » 09 Apr 2010, 05:26

Thanks so much! I have been working on the Joyce Colangelo death record but can't find a solid lead on her father. I have not check naturalization records. I did not know every state had them. Man! I am learning sooooo much! And I deeply appreciate your time and efforts. I wish I had started this sooner because I just spend the night locked in the WV State Archives for Hootowl night. I will get started researching with this information. Thanks so much everyone for being so kind and helpful!


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