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Mario Giove

Postby aiescavol » 23 Apr 2010, 11:00

I search descendant of Mario Giove (born 1885 about) emigrated with 2 children, Giuseppe "Joseph" and Ettore Albert (death in 1944).
How is possible know more?
I know that Joseph born in 1913, but I don't know if he was married

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:11

First Name: Mario
Last Name: Giove
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Milano, Italy
Date of Arrival: Sep 29, 1921
Age at Arrival: 36y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Patria
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0012

You can view this passenger list on www.ellisilandrecords.org or on www.stevemorse.org. He arrived on the Patria on Sept 29, 1921 and is on line 12 of the manifest.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:14

Traveling with his were Giuseppe age 8 and Ettore age 7. Their destination was to a cousin on Van Sicklen in Brooklyn, NY by the name of Pietro Loponte. There is no mention of a wife.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:15

Do you know where in the U.S. the family resided? did they remain in NY? That information would be helpful to those of us on this forum who want to help you.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:19

A possible descendant of Mario Giove (1885)

MARIO GIOVE 01 Sep 1927 01 Nov 1999 (P) 10309 (Staten Island, Richmond, NY) (none specified) 116-18-2050 New York-

from the social security index at www.rootsweb.com

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:22

JOSEPH GIOVE 21 Mar 1913 Jun 1978 11421 (Woodhaven, Queens, NY) (none specified) 068-09-8386 New York

You don't say where this family resided in the U.S., but this is a Joseph born the year that your Giuseppe was born, if his age on the passenger list is correct.

above info from the social security card. If him, his application for his ss card would give you both parents' names, if you need that info

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby aiescavol » 23 Apr 2010, 11:23

Dear maestra36,

I am sure that remain in USA.
I know that Ettore Albert death in 1944 in war, but his borther Joseph can be death in 1978, but I don't know when he married.
Live all in New York area, I think.

Mario Giove, the father, I don' t know whne death!

I appreciate and thank you for you help!!
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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:27

I see there is a Mario Giove in the 1930 census for Brooklyn with a wife named Emily. I do not have a subscription to ancestry.com, so someone else on this forum will have to get you the image of that census record.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 11:31

Giove Martire 60 y Oct 4 1947 19481 Kings

This is the only Giove whose first name starts with the letter M that I see in the NYC death index. This person was born abt 1887. The index only goes to 1948, so he Mario died after that date, he would not be in this index.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby aiescavol » 23 Apr 2010, 11:39

Well, Martire Giove is from Palo del Colle, I don't thonk that is Mario.

Mario Giove born in Ferrandina (Matera, Basilicata region), and I don't know his wife name.

I thank you a lot maestra36, you're very kind and sweet!

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 12:53

There an Emilia La Ponte from Ferrandina who came to this country as a single woman on Dec 24, 1909. She went to a sister in Hartford Conn named Maria. Her father was in Ferrandina and his name was Francesco. Emilia is the Italian version of Emily.

First Name: Emilia
Last Name: LaPonte
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Ferrandina, Potenza, Italy
Date of Arrival: Dec 24, 1909
Age at Arrival: 23y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Prinzess Irene
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0025

Since Mario went to a cousin with the Loponte surname when he arrived, this may very well be his spouse who is on the 1930 census. Since she was single in 1909 though, and the first child was born in 1913, they could have married between 1910 and 1912.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby aiescavol » 23 Apr 2010, 13:43

Mario Giove result married, so I thinkt that married in ferrandina because firth children born there in 1913.
Is strange that I not find date of death of Mario Giove or his wife.
Albert I know that death after war in 1944, at 30 years old.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 13:53

There microfilmed records available for the town of Ferrandina. You need to rent the microfilm at a local family history library at a Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints church.

Pubblicazioni 1810-1846 FHL INTL Film
1726994
Pubblicazioni 1847-1880 FHL INTL Film
1726976
Pubblicazioni 1882-1900 -- Processetti 1826, 1831-1832 FHL INTL Film
1726977
Processetti 1833-1836 FHL INTL Film
1726978
Processetti 1836-1840 FHL INTL Film
1726979
Processetti 1840-1844 FHL INTL Film
1726980
Processetti 1844-1848 FHL INTL Film
1726981
Processetti 1848-1852 FHL INTL Film
1726982
Processetti 1852-1856 FHL INTL Film
1726983
Processetti 1856-1859 FHL INTL Film
1726984
Processetti 1860-1864 FHL INTL Film
1727107
Processetti 1864-1865, 1874, 1866, 1881 FHL INTL Film
1727108
Processetti 1890, 1893 -- Atti diversi 1811-1893, 1809-1810 FHL INTL Film
1727109 Items 1-2
Morti, nati, matrimoni, pubblicazioni 1901-1910 -- Allegati 1906 FHL INTL Film
2095795
Allegati 1906-1908 VAULT INTL Film
2095796
Allegati 1908-1910 FHL INTL Film
2095797 Items 1 - 3
Morti 1911-1918 FHL INTL Film
2221359 Items 5 - 6
Morti 1918 (cont.)-1929 -- Indici decennali 1916-1929 -- Nati 1911-1922 FHL INTL Film
2221360
Nati 1922 (cont.)-1929 -- Matrimoni 1911-1915 -- Indici decennali di matrimoni 1906-1915 -- Matrimoni 1916-1922 -- Indici decennali di matrimoni 1916-1925 -- Matrimoni 1923-1929 -- Pubblicazioni di matrimoni 1911-1922 FHL INTL Film
2221361
Pubblicazioni di matrimoni 1923-1929 -- Allegati di matrimoni 1911-1913 VAULT INTL Film
2221362
Allegati di matrimoni 1913 (cont.)-1915, 1926-1927 VAULT INTL Film
2221363
Allegati di matrimoni 1927 (cont.)-1929 VAULT INTL Film
2221364 Items 1 - 3


These records will be in Italian, some in old Italian handwriting, and could be difficult to read, but you may have luck trying to rent some records for the years you know. They go from 1809-1929.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby maestra36 » 23 Apr 2010, 13:59

municipioferrandina@comune.ferrandina.mt.it

This is an email address for the town hall where the anagrafe or registry office is located in the town. That is the office that would house the birth, marriage and death records for the town. Here is the official website for the town.

http://www.comune.ferrandina.mt.it/sez1107273992

If you decide to email the office, you will need to provide very specific information to them. Otherwise you will not get any information from them. So, if you can say that the marriage took place between the years I mentioned in my previous post, and ask for the names of the parents of both the bride and the groom, you may be able to get that information from that office, even via email.

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Re: Mario Giove

Postby aiescavol » 23 Apr 2010, 14:06

oh sure, I can see.
Thanks a lot!!!


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