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Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby NCJE2910 » 27 Apr 2010, 14:44

Guys, I need so assistance in locating the death date and any other info about my ancestor Giovanna Palumbo; She was born circa 1834 in Italy (most likely in Nocera Superiore, Salerno, Campania, Italy); married to Antonio Trolla/o. She had at least 2 sons: Carmine & Matteo. She immigrated to New York with Matteo in 1896.
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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Apr 2010, 17:19

Hi Nick :-D

Do you have Giovanna and Matteo's manifest?

Could this be Matteo's brother Carmine?
In 1900 he is living on Hester St., NYC...working as a baker.

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[b]Name: Carmine Trolla[/b]

Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 40
Birth Date: May 1861
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Rose
Marriage Year: 1880
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 20
Residence : New York City, New York, New York
Occupation: Baker
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Household Members: Name Age
Carmine Trolla 40
Rose Trolla 41
Jennie Trolla 15
Antonio Trolla 11
Mary Trolla 9
Carmella Trolla 7
Emma Trolla 2
Luige Marler 37

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby pink67 » 27 Apr 2010, 17:34

She immigrated to New York with Matteo in 1896


1896 arrival manifest:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007

Matteo was 17 years old, so born on 1879...

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Apr 2010, 17:46

Nice find Laura :-)

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Apr 2010, 17:59

NYC Death Index Record for Matteo... Age is correct.
#16421 is the death certificate number...

Trolla Matteo 43 y Jun 10 1923 16421 Manhattan

This could be death record for Giovanna, though the age is older. No way of telling unless you get the certificate from NYC vital records.

Palumbo Giovanni 87 y May 7 1907 15606 Manhattan

Would certainly help if we could find a 1900 and 1910 census for Matteo...

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby NCJE2910 » 27 Apr 2010, 18:53

Wow guys; thanks for all this info - that Carmine is definitelythe correct one because his daughter Giovanna was my GG-grandmother. Im sure Matteo's death info is correct too. I know he had a wife, Giulia Verriere; but I havent found anything on them. It seemes like the mother Giovanna Palumbo just disappered once she came to NY. Im not sure if she had other children besides Carmine and Matteo; but I suspect that she had a son Salvatore, but I cant prove the connection. Any more info on them would be great.
Thanks so much for everything that you guys found for me;
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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby pink67 » 27 Apr 2010, 19:26

I know he had a wife, Giulia Verriere; but I havent found anything on them.


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Matteo Trolla
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth: , , Italy

Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: Antonio
Mother: Giorvanna Talumbo
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Marriages:
Spouse: Ginlia Verriere
Marriage: 17 JAN 1904 Manhattan, New York, New York

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby pink67 » 27 Apr 2010, 19:39

Possible 1900 census for Giovanna Palumbo and her sons (wrongly listed under her maiden name?)

1900 United States Federal Census
about Johanna Palumba
Name: Johanna Palumba
[Johanna Palomba]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 65
Birth Date: Mar 1835
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1897
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 10
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : New York City, New York, New York
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members: Name Age
Johanna Palumba 65 head, born in IT, mother of 10 children among whom 6 living, immigr. year 1897
Giatono Palumba 28 son, born in IT (may 1872) immigr. year 1897
Raeffalle Palumba 26 son, born in IT (nov 1873) immigr. year 1895
Matteci Palumba 20 son, born in IT (Sept. 1879) immigr. year 1897

Address 137R Mott street...

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http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq6cBhi

Interesting 1913 arrival manifest for Mattia Trolla:

Mattia Trollo, age 34, approx birth year 1879) married, from Nocera Superiore, leaving in Italy his sister Maria and joining his brother Raffaele in NYC., it was a second arrival, he stated he was in the U.S. before from 1904 to 1912

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

Laura :D


edit to add:

1896 arrival manifest for Gaetano Trolla (same ship and arrival date of Giovanna and Mattia Trolla):

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0137

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby pink67 » 27 Apr 2010, 19:54

From Ancestry.com:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Raffalle Trollo
Name: Raffalle Trollo
City: Manhattan
County: New York
State: New York
Birth Date: 12 Jun 1873
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1765592
DraftBoard: 89
Address: 55 Thompson street
occupation Peddler , occupation's address: 128 Baxter Street

nearest relative: Carmine Trollo, 38 Beck street

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby maestra36 » 27 Apr 2010, 20:00

There is a Matty Trollo, age 40, on the 1920 census. Says he was married, but his wife is not on the census. He is enumerated with a brother named Salvatore-living at 78 Thompson Street in Manhattan. ED 194, sheet 7 A. He is age 40 on this census and his immigration year is given as 1898. Sal said to have immigrated in 1910 and his son Gerry in 1911. Don't know if this is the same family or not. Matty's age seems to fit.

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby NCJE2910 » 27 Apr 2010, 21:22

Guys, you are amazing; this info is so amazing!; I thought that maybe this last Matty was our Matteo, because I thought there might be a brother Salvatore, but I have no way of really connecting them. All the other info seems to fit in perfectly. Thank you guys so much.

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby NCJE2910 » 27 Apr 2010, 22:34

Is there any other info for these people? I tried to search for info, but I havent found any at all for anyone of them.

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby Biff83 » 27 Apr 2010, 23:18

Groom
Trolla Matteo

Bride:
Verriere Guilea

Date of Marriage: Jan 17 1904
Certificate #: 1525
County: Manhattan

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby pink67 » 28 Apr 2010, 06:24

NCJE2910 wrote:Is there any other info for these people? I tried to search for info, but I havent found any at all for anyone of them.


Have you checked this site?

http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

possible death dates:

Trollo Carmine 59 y Apr 25 1919 Certificate: 14972 Manhattan
Trollo Gaetano 67 y Oct 21 1936 Certificate: 23083 Manhattan

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Re: Help! - Palumbo/Trollo Family

Postby pink67 » 28 Apr 2010, 06:45

From Ancestry.com:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Gaitano Trolla
Name: Gaitano Trolla
[Gaetano Trollo]

Age in 1910: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Assunta
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 10, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1897
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Household Members: Name Age
Gaitano Trolla 40 born in IT, married since 3 years, immigr. year 1897, alien
Assunta Trolla 33 born in IT, married since 3 years, immigr. year 1908
Jessie Trolla 6 born in IT, immigr. year 1908

Possibly Gaetano went back to Italy to marry Assunta, his daughter Jessie was born in Italy...

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq7q0l0

1920 United States Federal Census
about Gastario Trollo
Name: Gastario Trollo
[Gastauo Trollo]
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 1, New York, New York
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Susie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1898
Image: 920
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gastario Trollo 50 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1898
Susie Trollo 44 wife, born in IT, immigr. year 1910

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxytDf0

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