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SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby corrado » 11 May 2010, 00:16

I contacted the stato civile in Nocera Superiore and they have no record of a Nicole Silenzio being born there, I can't find any citiznehsip record, though on a manifest he says he is a US citizen.

But how about this, can anyone help me here?

Domenico Silenzio ( son)
born in New York in 1905

anyone can find a record of this lad? Please.

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby misbris » 11 May 2010, 01:49

Hi,

First, name is probably spelled Nicola. 2nd, did you notice on the 2nd page of the manifest, it says Circuit Court, Cook County, Oct 6, 1898.

Also if you look in the last column, I think it say place of birth is Nocere Inferiore.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0025

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby misbris » 11 May 2010, 02:00

Is this your Nicola?

Name: Nicola Silenzio
[Nicolo Sileugia]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 54
Birth Date: Oct 1845
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Marriage Year: 1878
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 22
Residence : New York City, New York, New York
Occupation: View on Image

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby misbris » 11 May 2010, 02:04

Name: Domenico Silenzio
Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1921
Birth Year: 1905
Birth Location: New York
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Europa

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 11 May 2010, 05:13

I found on this site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

a Domenico Silenzio
born on 20 november 1904
birth place Chicago, cook, Illinois
Father's name: Nicolo Silenzio
Father's age: 30
Mother's name: Michela Sartore

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby corrado » 11 May 2010, 14:10

Wow thank you both misbris and Pink67, that is great information fantastic!!!!!

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby corrado » 11 May 2010, 14:34

I will have to look at that census misbris, he would be way way to old, I have a picture ( only proof that he exists so far) of him in chicago in 1912, but I will store that info in my memory. Pink, ok I have to get that BC, that is going to be a treasure! Again thank you both!!!!!!
and misbris you are right, I probably AM spelling the name wrong, as you know reading that stuff is a challange.

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 11 May 2010, 16:15

Corrado, this record is from the site Italgen.org

New York city Births:
Sichenzio Domenic Jan 9 1903 Certificate n. 1108 Kings
:?:

I just noticed that I read wrong the last name from the Illinois, Cook County Register... it is Silerzio but this lastname it doesn't exist, so possible it was Silenzio... father's name matches.... Wasn't able to find a census or something other to connect with these records... :?
From the 1908 arrival manifest Nicola stated he was leaving in Nocera Inferiore his father in law Vincenzo Calabrese, this date doesn't matches with the birth record I found :? ...
He stated also he was married and considering he gave his father in law's name as nearest relative in Italy we can think his wife was in Chicago...
Do you know if his wife maiden name was Calabrese?
However, Silenzio is a very rare lastname today in Italy, there are many Silenzi but few Silenzio....

Laura

ps. edit to add iamge

Corrado, this is the image of the 1904 birth certificate for Domenico (I believe :wink: ) Silenzio:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqR7b5A

Address was 8006 Union street

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 11 May 2010, 17:05

Misbris wrote:Hi,

First, name is probably spelled Nicola. 2nd, did you notice on the 2nd page of the manifest, it says Circuit Court, Cook County, Oct 6, 1898.

Also if you look in the last column, I think it say place of birth is Nocere Inferiore.
www.ellisisland.org/EI...&line=0025



found him!

From Ancestry.com:

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Nicola Selerzio
Name: Nicola Selerzio
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1875
Birth Place: Rocca Piemonte, Salerno,
Gender: Male
Residence: Chicago, Illinois
Passport Issue Date: 19 Aug 1902
Spouse Name: Michela Stora
Passport Includes a Photo: N
Source: Emergency Passport Applications (Passports Issued Abroad), 1877-1907 (M1834)

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TskDoJJ

Nicola was born in Rocca Piemonte, Salerno Province, he emigrated for the first time on 1892 and stayed in Chicago until 1902 (date of this passport issued in Naples - Italy)...
He was a U.S. naturalized citizen before the Circuit Court of the Cook County at Chicago on 6 October 1898 :!:

note that Address of Witness is Nocera Superiore...

Correct lastname looks like was Selerzio

1902 Arrival manifest:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0014


Laura :D

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 11 May 2010, 17:50

And what about this marriage record?

from:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home
Illinois Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920

Groom: Nicholas Silerzio
Groom's age: 29
Estimated birth year: 1875
Bride's name: Olga Borgalt
Bride's age: 37
Estimated birth year: 1877
Marriage date: 9 may 1914
Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxppPv0

Maybe a second marriage?

Laura

edit to add:

from Ancestry.com

1920 United States Federal Census
about Cloya Silerzis
Name: Cloya Silerzis
[Clara L Silerzis]
[Clare L Silerzis]
Home in 1920: Manlius, Allegan, Michigan
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Germany
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
[Male]
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1886
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cloya Silerzis 42 head, married, born in Germany
Robert B Silerzis 4 son, born in Illinois, father born in Italy, mother in Germany
[4 1/12]
Edward Borgalt 20 son, born in IL
Elsie L Borgalt 18 daughter, born in IL
Henry Borgalt 11 son, born in IL

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 11 May 2010, 18:08

Possible death dates:

Social Security Death Index
about Nicholas Silerzio
Name: Nicholas Silerzio
SSN: 324-01-XXXX
Last Residence: Michigan
Born: 17 Jun 1874
Died: May 1964
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951

Michigan Deaths, 1971-1996
about Domenick Silerzio
Name: Domenick Silerzio
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1904
Death Date: 3 Nov 1979
Gender: Male
Residence: Illinois
Place of Death: Douglas, Allegan, Michigan

Social Security Death Index
about Robert Silerzio
Name: Robert Silerzio
SSN: 378-18-XXXX
Last Residence: 60126 Elmhurst, Du Page, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 7 Dec 1915
Died: Jun 1985
State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)

and:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1966 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about Nicolo Silerzio
Name: Nicolo Silerzio
Birth Place: Italy
Place of Residence: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Date of Action: 6 Oct 1898
Collection Title: Soundex Index to Naturalization Petitions for the United States District and Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois and Immigration and Naturalization Service District 9, 1840-1950 (M1285)
NARA Series #: M1285
Roll #: 159
Roll Description: S-432 Balhaser through S-463

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 11 May 2010, 19:41

Corrado, here are some other dates from the site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

Michigan Deaths and Burials, 1800-1995

Name: Olga S (Borgalt) Silerzio
Burial date: 29 August 1964
Burial Place Fennville, Michigan
Death Date: 26 August 1964
Death Place: Allegan, Allegan, Michigan
Age: 89
Birth Date: 30 July 1875
Birth place: Germany
Marital status: Divorced
Mother's name: Marie Bluhm

Illinois, Cook County Birth Registers, 1871-1915

Name: Alfonso Selerzio
Birth date: 22 March 1903
Birth Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Father's name: Nicola Selerzio
Father's Age: 28
Mother's name: ... chela Sartore
Image: http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqRMQ7S

Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1922

Name: Marian Silerpio
Death Date: 24 may 1907
Death place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: female
Death age: 3 months
Estimated birth year: 1907
image: http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqRNqy0

from Ancestry.com:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Olga Diluzio
Name: Olga Diluzio
Home in 1930: Manlius, Allegan, Michigan
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Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Germany
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Olga Diluzio 54 head, Divorced, born in Germany
Edward Borgatt 31 son, born in IL
Elsie Borgatt 28 daughter, born in IL
Carry Borgatt 22 Henry, son, born in ILL
Robert Diluzio 14 son, born in IL (father born in IT)

image: http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqRNPur

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby corrado » 11 May 2010, 22:51

BINGO this is our guy!!!! Pink this if our man , the name got messed up! All the other things fit into place, and when I saw Fenville MI, OMG, I know right where he fits in the family!!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!

It is going to take me awhile to digest all this stuff. you are fantastic!

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby pink67 » 12 May 2010, 06:30

You're welcome Corrado... :D

Still tryng to understand the correct spell of the lastname because Silerzio/Selerzio doesn't exist... :?

Laura

edit to add WW1 Draft registration card for Nicola:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Nicholas Silerzio
Name: Nicholas Silerzio
County: Allegan
State: Michigan
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1895
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1675113
DraftBoard: 0

Already living in Michigan, nearest relative Wife Olga Silerzio....

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFk9b9

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Re: SILENZIO in NY and Chicago

Postby misbris » 12 May 2010, 15:16

I think perhaps the name was Silenzio as written on the manifest, and then spelling was corrupted in the US.


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