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Needing place of Origin....

Postby Pinkraider » 14 May 2010, 19:07

For two surnames. I am not 100% sure they are from Italy but based on family stories and a few trees that I found online I am thinking they are based in Italy, just don't know exactly where.

1. Zuchegno (I also on Ancestory.com spelled as Tuchegno)
2. Chaireberra

I looked online on the surname map and found nothing though. Hopefully someone will have some answers. This is my mother's side of the family and since she passed about 17 years ago, I don't have many people to ask about my heritage on her side.

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby vj » 14 May 2010, 22:07

Hi and Welcome to the Forum!
Chances are your surnames have been 'Americanized'
Finding a ship manifest may help identify your town(s) of origin
Valarie

NY arrivals 1892-1924:
http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html

In case you don't already have this marriage record, from the FamilySearch Pilot site
(names may be correct or may have been 'sounded out' or mistranscribed)
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... html#start

Groom's Name: Leonardo Zuchegne
Groom's Birth Date: 1879
Groom's Birthplace: Italy
Groom's Age: 23
Bride's Name: Sabina Chiabrera
Bride's Birth Date: 1880
Bride's Birthplace: Italy
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1902
Marriage Place: Tuscarawas, Ohio
Groom's Father's Name: Domenice Zuchesne
Groom's Mother's Name: Congordia Bolgana
Bride's Father's Name: ...erte Chiabrera
Bride's Mother's Name: Luisa Rinaldo
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02330-6
System Origin: Ohio-EASy
Source Film Number: 890368
Reference Number: p341 n24821
Collection: Ohio Marriages, 1800-1958

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Another ship manifest to look for?
This may be Leonardo's brother Vincenzo

also from the FamilySerarch Pilot
1934 Death Certificate
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5444 ... search.jpg

Name: Vincent Zuchegno
Death Date: 11 Jan 1934
Death Place: Dover, Tuscarawas, Ohio
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Death Age: 62 years 3 months 22 days
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Race or Color: American
Street Address: 1515 Wooster Ave.
Occupation: Retired Merchant
Residence: Dover, Tuscarawas, Ohio
Burial Date: 15 Jan 1934
Burial Place:
Cemetery Name: St. Josephs Cem.
Spouse's Name: Carmella Zuchegno
Father's Name: Dominec Zuchegno
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Cora Louise
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Informant: Mrs Vincent Zuchegno
Film Number: 1992988
Digital Folder Number: 4001892
Image Number: 294
Certificate Number: fn 6266
Collection: Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953


edit: added
Vincenzo's marriage record

Groom's Name: Vincenzo Zuchigno
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace: Italy
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Carmela Dinoio
Bride's Birth Date: 1883
Bride's Birthplace: Niles, O.
Bride's Age: 17
Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1900
Marriage Place: , Tuscarawas, Ohio
Groom's Father's Name: Domenico Zuchigno
Groom's Mother's Name: Concoseia Balzaro
Bride's Father's Name: Antonio Dinoio
Bride's Mother's Name: Censovi Sante
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M86936-5
System Origin: Ohio-VR
Source Film Number: 890367
Reference Number: 2:3K6DKVT
Collection: Ohio Marriages, 1800-1958

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a bit about name changes :wink:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/ellis_isl ... change.htm

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby vj » 14 May 2010, 22:39

If this is Leonardo's 1895 manifest, there's little information except another way to spell his name

possible 1895 ship manifest
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4285/1895vu.jpg

20 Aug 1895, KAISER WILHELM II, Genoa to NY
2nd line from the bottom
Leonardo Zucchegna 16 yrs old (abt 1879) Italy
- single
- destination Philadelphia
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Not much help but the surname Zucchegna is found in the Province of L'Aquila in the Abruzzo Region

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby Pinkraider » 15 May 2010, 15:02

Oh my goodness. You literally brought tears to my eyes! Thank you so so so so much! This is just amazingly awesome! Wow..... :D

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby suanj » 15 May 2010, 15:58

Hi,
no italian birthplace mentioned in:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Leonardo Zuchegno
Name: Leonardo Zuchegno
County: Tuscarawas
State: Ohio
Birth Date: 31 Oct 1878
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1851246
DraftBoard: 1

also on the arrival record no birthplace abt Leonardo's brother, Vincenzo Zucchegna:
Last name First name Age Sex Arrival Date Place of last residence
ZUCCHEGNA VINCENZO 20 M 2 Sep 1890 U
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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby Pinkraider » 15 May 2010, 20:14

vj, none of the links worked for me. Nevermind they work now.
Thank suanj for your help.

Why would the spelling of Zuchegno be spelled differently so many times?

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby vj » 15 May 2010, 21:56

I'm so glad we could find some records for your family!

suanj :D is one of our experts from Italy - suanj would be one of the forum members that would have a better idea of what the original spelling of your surnames may have been

You surname should have been spelled correctly on the ship manifest.
Once folks arrived in the US they may have changed the spelling of their name to something more 'convenient'
On US records you may find your surnames being 'sounded-out' or transcribed incorrectly.
Do you have your family's US records - census, military registration, etc?

Here's a neat tool for finding where surnames occur in present day Italy
http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/
Left side under 'Cognome:'
- type your surname in the box
- click the red arrow
When the results appear on the map you can click on them to zoom in
Try Zucchegna from the manifest and Chiabrera from the marriage record

Thank you, Valarie

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby suanj » 16 May 2010, 05:19

thnks Valarie, I believe that the best way for to find the right birthplace is to descover the right surname spelling of Leonardo's mother.. Balzaro... Bolgana... ???? by mother surname could be possible to understand almost the area...
however the area is in ex Abruzzi, now Abruzzo and Molise regions...
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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby Pinkraider » 16 May 2010, 20:10

Very interesting. I will have to ask my Aunts when I go back home to visit in the summer. I hope they will have some stories and info for me so that I can record it for myself and my children. I'm not sure how close they were with my grandparents so hopefully they have something to tell.

Thanks again!!

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby Biff83 » 17 May 2010, 14:29

suanj wrote:I believe that the best way for to find the right birthplace is to descover the right surname spelling of Leonardo's mother.. Balzaro... Bolgana... ???? by mother surname could be possible to understand almost the area...
however the area is in ex Abruzzi, now Abruzzo and Molise regions...
best regards,
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Possibly,

Balzano?

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Re: Needing place of Origin....

Postby PeterTimber » 17 May 2010, 14:39

what about BOLZANO? There was a period when foundlings and orphans were named after cities in which they were domiciled. =Peter=
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