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Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Lili2 » 15 May 2010, 07:08

Hi A while back I found out that 2 of my great grand fathers went to America to work (seperately). Im not sure how long they lived there but I found the Ellis Island record for one of them. They both returned to Sicily after a few years. Any info that can be found about them or Giuseppe Spina's sons would be much appreciated. Maybe there is some census info?

Giuseppe Spina
B 1867 in Fiumefreddo di Sicilia
I think I found his Ellis Island record for 11 April 1909.
His sons went to the USA to live.
Carmelo Spina B1896
Ignazio Spina B1893


Domenico Cucinotta
B 1866 Cumia Messina Sicily
Went to the USA c1908
Domenico apparently injured his foot ( a work injury?) in the US and returned to Sicily initially unable to walk and in time was left with a permanent limp.

Thanks for your interest, Lili
My family are from Sicily: Fiumefreddo, Ficarra, Giampilieri, Cumia, Messina and Carmela Zagami,Argentina.

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Tessa78 » 15 May 2010, 16:00

Domenico seems to have made several trips. On a 1913 manifest it notes that he has been in US (Boston) in 1906 and 09. On this trip he is going to his son Santo Cuccinotta in Boston.

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943

Name: Domenico Cucinotta
Arrival Date: 5 Jun 1913
Age: 48 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Canopic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Santo Cucinotta
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Itala, Italy

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Postby Tessa78 » 15 May 2010, 16:06

On this trip in 1906 he is going to son Mariano Cuccinotta on Salem Street in Boston.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Domenico Cucinotta
Arrival Date: 21 Apr 1906
Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Messina
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ravenna

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Lili2 » 16 May 2010, 07:52

Thanks for your help Tessa. Im not certain though that this is my GGF Domenico Cucinotta. He didnt have any sons of that name and none of his children ever lived in NY. If it is my GGF maybe Santo and Mariano were cousins of his?
My family are from Sicily: Fiumefreddo, Ficarra, Giampilieri, Cumia, Messina and Carmela Zagami,Argentina.

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Postby Tessa78 » 16 May 2010, 20:58

What are the names of Domenico's children and where did they live? Did they live in US?

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Postby Tessa78 » 16 May 2010, 21:17

Hi Lili,

Here is a manifest for Carmelo Spina, 17, arriving Philadelphia Sept 1913, leaving father Giuseppe in Fiumefreddo, going to brother Ignazio in Philadelphia (looks like 967 So. 8th St.)

Line 10
Page 1
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/488/ ... rmelo1.jpg

page 2
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7486 ... armelo.jpg

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Postby Tessa78 » 16 May 2010, 21:20

If the above is the correct Carmelo Spina, then this is his WWI Registration Card.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2065 ... elowwi.jpg

Living in Reading, single.

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Tessa78 » 16 May 2010, 21:48

Here are 1920 and 1930 Census in Philadelphia for Carmelo Spina.

1920 - single living on South Darien St. and working for steel company. His name is spelled "Spian" by the census taker.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1962/s ... armelo.jpg

1930 Census shows him married to Leonarda, with son Joseph

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5831/s ... armelo.jpg

Social Security Death Index for Carmelo

Social Security Death Index

Name: Carmello Spina
SSN: 161-14-0493
Last Residence: 19603 Reading, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Born: 30 Jan 1896
Last Benefit: 19601 Reading, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Died: Sep 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951)

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Tessa78 » 16 May 2010, 22:08

Manifest for Ignazio Spina 17, arriving NY 12 April 1909.
Leaving father Giuseppe in Fiumefreddo, goin to brother-in-law Gastano Cassabbiamo (sp?) at 914 So. 8th St., Philadelphia.

Page 1 - line 4
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004

Page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004

edit: It's very interesting that Giuseppe was traveling at the same time on another vessel. They arrived in NY one day apart, with different destinations.
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Postby Tessa78 » 16 May 2010, 22:11

Naturalization for Ignazio Spina in Pennsylvania

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3889/ignazionat1.jpg

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Lili2 » 17 May 2010, 10:54

Thanks Tessa, for your time. I plan to have a good look at the links and put it all together.
Re Domenico Cucinotta's children he had 5: Giuseppe B1893, Carmela B1904, Pasquale B1908, Maria and Domenica.
I can check but my mother said none of her aunts & uncles left Cumia, Messina, Sicilia. The furthest they went was Messina to live.

Re Giuseppe Spina and his sons Im in contact with their descendants in the US but like me they dont have access to the US Census etc.

Thank you so much!
My family are from Sicily: Fiumefreddo, Ficarra, Giampilieri, Cumia, Messina and Carmela Zagami,Argentina.

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Joannsalvo » 17 May 2010, 11:40

Check out this website for Reading, PA

http://www.co.berks.pa.us/rwills/s/RegMain.htm

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Lili2 » 18 May 2010, 12:20

Hi Joannsalvo, I cant seem to link to that website.
Regards, Lili
My family are from Sicily: Fiumefreddo, Ficarra, Giampilieri, Cumia, Messina and Carmela Zagami,Argentina.

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Joannsalvo » 18 May 2010, 16:08

Maybe your computer is blocking your access?!
What names would you like me to lookup for you?
I need first and last name.

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Re: Looking for Info on 2 GGFs who Worked in USA

Postby Lili2 » 19 May 2010, 00:47

Hi Joann,
My GGF's were:
Domenico Cucinotta B1866
Giuseppe Spina B1867
They went to the USA to work but returned to Italy.

Giuseppe Spina's sons were:
Ignazio Spina B 1893
Carmelo Spina B 1896
They both emigrated to the US permanently.

Ive never used this website so dont know what info may be found.
Thanks for your help, much appreciated.
Lili
My family are from Sicily: Fiumefreddo, Ficarra, Giampilieri, Cumia, Messina and Carmela Zagami,Argentina.


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