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looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) grano

Postby siskojnash » 15 Jun 2010, 15:44

I am trying to find the passenger list and ship picture for Giuseppina Grano. She was born July 19, 1885 and died February 8, 1973. She died in Brooklyn. She was born in Italy, but I don't know where. According to the 1930 Census, she emigrated in 1910. According to the census, she married Luigi Franconeri in 1913.
She was naturalized Jan 7, 1936. Luigi Franconeri was born on June 8, 1880. He died on April 25, 1934. I think he arrived on May 24, 1910 on the SS Ancona at Ellis Island. I saw the document on the Ellis Island site, but want to recheck the information to see whether or not I think it is him after all. According to the 1930 Census, he also emigrated in 1910.
I am trying to complete this project before Sunday, if I can. It is for a Father's Day gift for my fiancee's father. The Franconeri's are his family on his maternal side. His paternal side is Castrovinci, but I have already found the passenger information for them and am certain of those two. I'm not as sure of Luigi though. Of course, I would really love to be able to find out more about the Franconeris and Granos in Italy also. There isn't really a time limit on that part, though. Thank you very much for your time.

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 15:50

Here is the marriage info for Giuseppina nd Luigi-

Franconeri Luigi Jun 8 1912 Manhattan certificate # 14069

Grano Giuseppina Aug 6 1912 Manhattan 14069

http://www.italiangen.org/NYCmarrigesearch.asp

You can order a copy of their marriage record through the website

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 15:52

I don't know why there are two different dates in the index but the certificate number is the same, so that would enable the researcher at the archive to locate the correct record.

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby siskojnash » 15 Jun 2010, 16:01

Thank you very much. That's them, all right. I don't suppose you know what's involved in ordering the marriage record. I'm doing this for my fiancee. Do we have to prove that she's a descendant? How much does it cost to order it? I guess the document would say which date is actually correct for the marriage.

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 16:21

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

All the info you need is on the above website. You can click on the first option and you will find a form you can fill out online and use a credit card number with, but it does take a few weeks to get the copy. Use the certificate number I gave you from the index.

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 16:24

sorry, use the form that comes up with the second option. The first form is if you don't have the certificate number

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 16:25

you just want to request a certified copy online-the second form asks for the certificate number which you now have

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby vj » 15 Jun 2010, 16:26

just in case you don't already have this, includes a picture

from footnote. com

Luigi's 1928 Declaration of Intention with picture of Giuseppina
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1329 ... ntion1.jpg

Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Language: English
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1928
Surname: Franconeri
Given Name: Giuseppina
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Alias Given Name: Luigi
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 16:27

I would leave the day and month blank because of the discrepancy between the groom's index and the bride's index. Just put in the year 1912 on the application..

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby vj » 15 Jun 2010, 16:30

edit: added Petition & Oath

Giuseppina Grano

1935 Petition for Naturalization
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2440 ... lizati.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1935
Surname: Franconeri
Given Name: Giuseppina
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
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1935 Certificate of Arrival
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4824/other1935.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Language: English
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1935
Surname: Franconeri
Given Name: Giuseppina
Document Type: Other
Alias Surname: Grano
Alias Given Name: Giuseppa
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
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1936 Oath of Allegiance
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5966 ... ce1936.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1936
Surname: Franconeri
Given Name: Giuseppina
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby maestra36 » 15 Jun 2010, 16:32

Great finds-Valarie!

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby vj » 15 Jun 2010, 16:38

Thank you maestra :D
I'm going to look for all of their naturalization documents
Finding the marriage record is really neat -
I've found the folks at the NY Archives are very helpful.
Valarie

Giuseppina's manifest:

1909 manifest, lines 25-28
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4286/1909l.jpg
page 2
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7834/190901.jpg

picture of the SS Cedric
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... s%3Disch:1

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby vj » 15 Jun 2010, 17:19

Luigi Franconieri

1928 Declaration of Intention
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/1329 ... ntion1.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1928
Surname: Franconieri
Given Name: Luigi
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
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1932 Petition for Naturalization
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2440 ... lizati.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1932
Surname: Franconieri
Given Name: Luigi
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
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1931 Certificate of Arrival
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5055/other1931.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1931
Surname: Franconieri
Given Name: Luigi
Document Type: Other
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
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1933 Oath of Allegiance (see notes abt Luigi's death)
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3892 ... ce1933.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1933
Surname Starts With: F
Surname Starts With Two: Fr
Surname: Franconieri
Given Name: Luigi
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
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1935 Certificate of Arrival
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4824/other1935.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1935
Surname: Franconeri
Given Name: Giuseppina
Document Type: Other
Alias Surname: Franconieri
Alias Given Name: Luigi
Nara Catalog Id: 576072
Nara Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby siskojnash » 15 Jun 2010, 17:24

Oh my God, thank you so much for finding all this. I just called my fiancee's aunt asking her about the naturalization documents since Giuseppina's daughter lives with her. This is absolutely amazing! This is exactly what I needed!
Do you happen to have any idea about her parents or family? I know she had at least 3 brothers, Vincent, Louis, and James, but I don't know anything about them for sure. After finding out her maiden name this weekend, I found an Ignagio Grano listed on the 1930 Census on the same page as her.
He had a wife named Clodia (Claudia apparently is the correct name). They had three children: Casper, Hellen, and Eloisa. Casper was born around 1906 in Italy and the other two were born shortly after the family emigrated in 1907. I guess my question about this family is whether he could have been another brother, uncle, or something. He must be related somehow. I think he was born in 1877.
I saw Louie Grano in the 1920 Census as Giuseppina's next door neighbor. He was born around 1896. He was married to Angelina, who was born around 1895. They had two children in the census. Annie was born around 1915 and Frank was born around 1917. Of course, this is based on what's written in the census for both families.

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Re: looking for immigration info on giuseppina (josephine) g

Postby vj » 15 Jun 2010, 17:31

I'm so glad we could find these records for you.

A couple of ways to confirm relationships would be
- if they were living in the same household and are identified as a relative on the census
- or if you can find a manifest stating they were joining a relative in the US at a confirmed address.
Since you are under a deadline researching birth records in the comune would take much longer...

Giuseppina Grano

some clues from her manifest?

born in Napoli
father Francesco
travelling with an aunt & cousins to an uncle Raffaele Mannone
possibly her mother's maiden name?

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