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Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby jamesy1 » 18 Jun 2010, 16:52

I have been searching the Termini Imerese database that is online and have found my grandfathers father, Francesco Deluca who was born in 1881 in Termini also had a brother Antonino Deluca born 1865 and a sister Antonina born 1877. I knew they all immigrated to the US and settled in Troy, NY and NYC. I didn't know but found a sister Maria Deluca and it shows she was born in 1867 but no death notice. I figured she must have immigrated to the US also. Looking on Ellis Island found a Maria Deluca sailing on the SS Archimede on 16 February 1900. Below her shows my great grandfather, Francesco Deluca age 18 with her. What I need help with is there are lines going through the entries and some annotations on it that are 2x 25832 and something that looks like 1034? What does that mean does anyone know? Also, when looking at who they are going to meet in NYC it shows a brother but I can't make out the rest. Can anyone read what it says about brother Deluca etc? It had to be their brother Anthony that was already in NY but can't read where he was living. Any help would be great.

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby vj » 18 Jun 2010, 17:00

Hi!
The markings sound like naturalization notations
Valarie

This may help
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/occ/

Maria and Francesco are lined off this 16 Feb 1900 manifest
It usually means they did not sail (the exception would be if they were relisted on another page)
Joining her brother Antonio DeLuca
The notations belong to the person after Francesco
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1728/1900.jpg

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby vj » 18 Jun 2010, 17:15

Maria and brother Giuseppe(?) DeLuca
(could Francesco have had two names??)

16 Mar 1900
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013
Joining brother Antonio DeLuca at 15 Minetta Street NY NY

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Jun 2010, 17:38

Hi Valarie :-)

Just a sidenote...

Found this real estate listing for 17 Minetta St. in NYC -
Wow :-D have prices changed in Greenwich Village Area from 1900...

This Single-Family Home is located at 17 Minetta Street, New York NY. 17 Minetta St is in the Greenwich Village neighborhood in New York, NY and in ZIP Code 10012.

Price: $6,250,000.00


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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby jamesy1 » 18 Jun 2010, 17:39

I think you are both right. The lines must mean that they did not sail for some reason in February but returned to sail out of Palermo in March 0f 1900 because the name of relative seems like it is exactly the address of the one on the previous manifest. The name Giuseppe name may be a middle name. His fathers name was Giuseppe Francesco Deluca so may be a reverse of that for his name. That is great! I am still trying to figure out this Maria Deluca also because no one in the family knows anything about a sister Maria and I can't find anything in any census after 1900 that would match her age in NY state. Maybe she married late in life (was 32 when she came over) and her name is under her husbands name? What a mystery!

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby vj » 18 Jun 2010, 17:45

A family obituary may list Mary's married name.
This is a neat website for newspapers in NY - you may be able to find an obit
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

and

If you haven’t used these, they may help you locate New York City records:

Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York:

NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1901-1907
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/
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T :D
That's really neat
Thanks!
Valarie

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Jun 2010, 18:39

Francesco's father's name was Giuseppe Francesco DeLuca...do you know what his mother's name was?

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby jamesy1 » 18 Jun 2010, 19:02

His mothers name was Maria Demma as per the Termini Imerese database

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Jun 2010, 19:38

Maria Deluca'a marriage from the familysearch pilot site.

Groom's Name: Michele Coudioto
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Maria Deluca
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1901
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Ignazio
Groom's Mother's Name: Marzia Onattiocchi
Bride's Father's Name: Guiseppe
Bride's Mother's Name: Maria Deninra

Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00548-8
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1570690
Reference Number:
Collection: New York Marriages, 1686-1980


Also listed in NYC vital records index at the www.italiangen.org site


DeLuca Maria Dec 30 1901 22838 Manhattan
Candioto Michele Dec 30 1901 Manhattan 22838

It is interesting that this marriage is listed twice - probably because it occurred on Dec. 30 of '01...listed with another cert # in 1902...

Deluca Maria Dec 30'01 1902 634 Manhattan
Candioto Michele Dec 30'01 1902 Manhattan 634

You can request this marriage record from NYC Vital records online for a fee...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby jamesy1 » 18 Jun 2010, 19:44

thank you so much! The mothers maiden name must have been misspelled. I will order this certificate from nyc and get further information. thanks again!

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Jun 2010, 19:46

Glad to help :-)

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby vj » 18 Jun 2010, 21:37

Great find T!

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Jun 2010, 21:50

Thanks Valarie :-D

But not much luck finding them on a census.

A close one is a 1920 Census in Troy, NY.... ????

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby jamesy1 » 19 Jun 2010, 19:48

Where did you find them on the 1920 census in Troy, NY? I looked and couldn't find any Candioto or Coudioto in New York.

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Re: Searching for Deluca family from Termini, Italy

Postby vj » 19 Jun 2010, 21:14

Tessa78 wrote:Maria Deluca'a marriage from the familysearch pilot site.

Groom's Name: Michele Coudioto
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Maria Deluca
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1901
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Ignazio
Groom's Mother's Name: Marzia Onattiocchi
Bride's Father's Name: Guiseppe
Bride's Mother's Name: Maria Deninra

Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00548-8
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1570690
Reference Number:
Collection: New York Marriages, 1686-1980


Also listed in NYC vital records index at the www.italiangen.org site


DeLuca Maria Dec 30 1901 22838 Manhattan
Candioto Michele Dec 30 1901 Manhattan 22838

It is interesting that this marriage is listed twice - probably because it occurred on Dec. 30 of '01...listed with another cert # in 1902...

Deluca Maria Dec 30'01 1902 634 Manhattan
Candioto Michele Dec 30'01 1902 Manhattan 634

You can request this marriage record from NYC Vital records online for a fee...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

T.


from the FamilySearch pilot site

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5444 ... search.jpg

1905 NY census

Name: Michael Candioto
Residence: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: 1861
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Race: White
Gender: Male
Family Number: 160
Page Number: 22
Line Number: 17
Film Number: 549904
Digital Folder Number: 004296236
Image Number: 396
Collection: New York State Census, 1905

Name: Mary Candioto
Residence: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Race: White
Gender: Female
Family Number: 160
Page Number: 22
Line Number: 18
Film Number: 549904
Digital Folder Number: 004296236
Image Number: 396
Collection: New York State Census, 1905


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