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Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 29 Jun 2010, 19:36

I am new to the forum. I am looking for any information on Vincentzo "Vincent" Valenti. So far, I have the following information:

Was born in roughly 1870.
He was a gunsmith for the wealthy in Italy
He was from Northern Italy
He was married to Maria Reso Valenti, who I believe was from Sicily. She was born in 1881.
Moved to America by 1902.

That is all that I know. I am trying to find out when exactly he was born, which city he was from and when he moved to America. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 29 Jun 2010, 19:39

Welcome to the Forum Eric :D !
We'll all be happy to see what we can do to help.
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 29 Jun 2010, 19:40

Thanks for the welcome. This is a cool site.
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 29 Jun 2010, 19:47

Eric,
We'll probably need to find his ship manifest to determine where he was born (if it's a manifest after abt 1898). Did he come to the US with any children? Where did they live?
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 29 Jun 2010, 20:09

His oldest son, Dominico Valenti, was born in New Orleans, LA in 1902. All of his children were born in New Orleans, LA. My grandfather told me that he met his wife in Italy and moved to New Orleans. I made a mistake in his birth year. It is 1870. So my guess would be he married in the 1890s and moved between 1890 and 1900.
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 29 Jun 2010, 20:45

Additionally, I have seen his wife's surname spelled Rizzo and Reso
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 30 Jun 2010, 14:56

Thank you for the update.
We'll see what we can find.
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Do these census records belong to your family?
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from ancestry. com
1920 and 1900 also available on FamilySearch (free):
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsea ... html#start

possible 1920 census
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/817/1920tb.jpg

Home in 1920:
2120 Burgundy Street, owns without a mortgage
New Orleans Ward 7, Orleans, Louisiana

head Vincent Valente 48, abt 1872 IT
- immig 1896, Na 1905 (naturalized in 1905)
- gunsmith, own shop
wife Mary Valente 40, abt 1880 IT
- immig 1896, Na
son Corina (Cosimo) Valente 22, abt 1898 LA
- machinist, shop
son Domenick Valente 18, abt 1902 LA
- helper machinist, shop
daughter Antoinette Valente 15, abt 1905 LA
daughter Josephine Valente 13, abt 1907 LA
daughter Rosie Valente 10, abt 1910 LA
daughter Annie Valente 7, abt 1913 LA
son Anthony Valente 5, abt 1915 LA
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possible 1910 census
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2471/1910s.jpg
note: no immig date
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Note: immig 1881-2

possible 1900 census
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6959/1900cp.jpg

Home in 1900:
714 St Philip Street, rents
New Orleans Ward 5, Orleans, Louisiana

head Vincent Valenti 23, born Oct 1873 IT
- married 7 yrs, abt 1893
- immig 1882, in US 18 yrs, Al
- shoemaker
wife Mary Valenti 23, born Feb 1877 IT
- 4 children born, 2 children living
- immig 1881, in US 19 yrs
son Cosmo Valenti 3, born Feb 1897 LA
daughter Frances Valenti 1, born Feb 1899 LA
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 30 Jun 2010, 15:45

VALENTI

If Vincenzo arrived in 1882 (see 1900 census)
He may have traveled with his father Cosimo (1st son's name)

possible 1882 manifest (15 lines up from the bottom)
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3629/1882z.jpg

Ship Name: Hantes
Arrival Date: 13 Dec 1882
Port of Departure: Naples and Palermo, Italy and Mediterranean Ports
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York

Cosimo Valenti 32, abt 1850
Vincenzo Valenti 8, abt 1874
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edit: added
possible 1884 ship manifest for Cosimo's wife Francesca and two more sons
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3383/1883a.jpg

traveling from Termini(?)

Ship Archimede
11 Oct 1883
Messina and Palermo to New York
lines 74-76

Francesca Valenti 30, abt 1853
- seamstress
Salvatore Valenti 6, abt 1877
Antonio Valenti 3, abt 1880
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Could this census belong to Vincenzo's parents Cosimo and Francesca and his siblings?
(Vincenzo's 1st daughter named for his mother?)

possible 1900 census
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2332/1900i.jpg

Home in 1900:
812 Ursulines Street, rents
New Orleans Ward 6, Orleans, Louisiana

head Cusmo Valenta 45, born Aug 1855 IT
- married 27 yrs, abt 1873
- immig 1881, in US 19 yrs, Al
- shoemaker
wife Francis Valenta 47, born Dec 1852 IT
- 8 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1881, in US 19 yrs
son Salvadore Valenta 22, born Mar 1878 IT
- immig 1881, in US 19 yrs, Na
- shoemaker
daughter Annie Valenta 14, born Nov 1885 LA
daughter Josephine Valenta 13, born Apr 1887 LA
son Joseph Valenta 7, born Feb 1893 LA
daughter Eva Valenta 5, born Nov 1894 LA
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 30 Jun 2010, 16:20

VALENTI

from ancestry. com
New Orleans, Louisiana Birth Records Index, 1790-1899

parents Cosimo Valenti and Francesca Comella/i:

Given: Anna
Surname: Valenti
Father: Cosimo
Mother: Francesca Comelli
Sex: F
Color: W
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1885
Volume: 96
Page: 372

Given: Cuiseppina (Giuseppina)
Surname: Valenti
Father: Cosimo
Mother: Francesca Comelli
Sex: F
Color: W
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1888
Volume: 96
Page: 373

Given: Giuseppe
Surname: Valenti
Father: Cusimano
Mother: Francesca Comella
Sex: M
Color: W
Birth Date: 02 Mar 1893
Volume: 106
Page: 462

Given: Ninfa
Surname: Valenti
Father: Cusimano
Mother: Francesca Comella
Sex: F
Color: W
Birth Date: 27 Mar 1895
Volume: 106
Page: 462
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parents Vincenzo Valenti and Maria Rizzo/Reso:

Given: Cosmo
Surname: Valente
Father: Vincenzo
Mother: Marion Rizzo
Sex: M
Color: W
Birth Date: 10 Dec 1896
Volume: 112
Page: 303

Given: Francesca
Surname: Valente
Father: Vincenzo
Mother: Mary Reso
Sex: F
Color: W
Birth Date: 01 Feb 1899
Volume: 116
Page: 237
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 30 Jun 2010, 17:27

Valarie,

I am very impressed by how quickly you found this info. I have been looking for a few weeks, but I guess I didn't know where to look. The first
Vincent Valenti is him. His kids match up with the kids I know about. The only difference is that we knew of a Cosmo, but we thought it was his son Paul Vincent Valenti. I am not sure if Paul is Cosmo, which I don't think, or if he was born after 1920.

It looks like he may have come over in 1896, according to what I can see in the census. It looks like Mary may have come at the same time. If this is the case, he may not be Cosimo Valenti's son. Though Cosimo has alot of children with the same names as Vincent, their ages don't seem to be right. Also, my grandpa told me that he was a gunsmith while living in Italy. If he moved to America at age 8, I don't think that could be right. But, my grandfather has been wrong on a few things.

He was married in 1893 and moved here in 1896. I am pretty sure he came into New Orleans and settled here. Do you think you could help me find which boat he came in on.

Again, thanks for the help. This is great information.
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 30 Jun 2010, 17:28

from the state of LA, website for searching/ordering records
http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/638/Default.aspx

possibly related death records

Year/ Age/ Month/ Day/ Name/ Parish


1929 74 12 23 VALENTI , COSIMO
Orleans, Page: 1326 Volume: 199

1937 2 0 VALENTI , FRANCES CAMELLO
Orleans, Page: 1744 Volume: 209

1947 69 3 0 VALENTI , MARY R
Orleans, Page: 1421 Volume: 223

1957 86 1 19 VALENTI , VINCENT
Orleans, Page: 483 Volume: 0
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 30 Jun 2010, 17:47

Vincent and Mary match up to what I have. I don't think Cosimo is his dad. He would have been 17 when he was born. But it is possible.
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 01 Jul 2010, 13:25

I can't locate any shipping manifest for Vincent in 1896. Honestly, I don't know where to look. Could anyone help find the boat he came in on. I think he was married in Sicily, so it most likely would have departed from there.
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby vj » 01 Jul 2010, 15:33

More clues?
from the New Orleans Public Library Obituary Index
http://nutrias.org/~nopl/obits/obits.htm

Valenti, Cosimo Death date: 1929-12-23 Sex: M Obituary citation(s): Times-Picayune, 1929-12-24, Pg. 2 col. 8 Times-Picayune, 1929-12-24, Pg. 2 col. 7

Valenti, Mrs. Frances Death date: 1937-02-24 Sex: F Next of kin: Cosimo Valenti (husband)
Obituary citation(s): Times-Picayune, 1937-02-25, Pg. 2 col. 8

Valenti, Vincent Death date: 1957-01-19 Age: 87 years Sex: M Obituary citation(s): Times-Picayune, 1957-01-20, Pg. 2 col. 5 States, 1957-01-20, Pg. 2 col. 3
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from GenealogyBank (subscription)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3932/image0002zg.jpg

Cosimo Valenti 1929 obituary

VALENTI
On Monday, December 23, 1929, at 9:30 p.m. COSIMO VALENTI beloved husband of Frances Comella, father of Vincent, Anthony, Joseph and the late Salvador Valenti, Mrs. Vincent Savarese, Mrs. Gustave Matherne, Mrs. Joseph DiFranco, brother of the late Michael Valenti. Also survived by sixteen grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren, a native of Termini, Italy, and a resident of this city for the past 50 years.
Relatives and friends of the family, also officers and members of the Giovanni Bersaglieri Society are invited to attend the funeral which will take place Wednesday, December 25, 1929 at 3 o'clock p.m. from the funeral home of his late son (the late Salvador Valenti), 1530 Esplanade avenue, corner N. Claiborne avenue. services to be held at St. Peter and Paul church.
Interment in St Louis cemetery no. 3, Esplanade avenue.
http://www.nolacemeteries.com/louis3.html
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Vincent Valenti 1957 obituary
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1272/image0002m.jpg

"(survived by) two brothers, Anthony and Joseph Valenti, and three sisters, Mrs. Eva DiFranco, Mrs Gus Matherne and Mrs Anna Savarese ...
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Re: Vincenzo Valenti

Postby eric5021 » 01 Jul 2010, 18:54

Thanks VJ, the 1957 obituary helped me fill in alot of blanks. It confirmed that Cosimo was his father.
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