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Northern Italian Surnames

Postby favret » 01 Jul 2010, 11:43

Does anyone know a resource where I can find the heritage of various northern Italian surnames? :?:

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Jul 2010, 11:51

This site ( http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/index.html ) can help; begin by clicking one of the letters of the alphabet at the top of the page.

Forum member PeterTimber is our resident expert on name origins. He has not been spending as much time here of late as in the past, however you can try PM'ing him: http://italiangenealogy.com/Your_Accoun ... 21767.html
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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby favret » 01 Jul 2010, 12:04

Thanks, I sent Peter a PM. The name I am researching is not listed on the site you provided.

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby Sal » 01 Jul 2010, 12:35

If the surnames are from Trentino, you may find some info here -- www.trentinoheritage.com
Researching Iob (Job, Yob), Dalpiaz, Zanon in villages of Cunevo and Flavon (Trentino) and Romano in Spadafora (Sicily).
www.trentinoheritage.com

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby donnaelaine » 01 Jul 2010, 13:00

Is there a good place to start to look for info on DiSalvo family name?
thank you ....just starting out, so i'm perhaps asking the wrong question.
appreciate any help

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby favret » 01 Jul 2010, 13:09

Good site Sal, but unfortunately the surname (Mainardis) does not exist anywhere.

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Jul 2010, 13:29

favret wrote:Good site Sal, but unfortunately the surname (Mainardis) does not exist anywhere.


How about Mainardi (which is certainly the more likely Italian spelling):

Diffuso con media frequenza al nord e sporadicamente nel centro, ha alla base il nome di origine germanica e di tradizione francone Mainardo, documentato nella stessa area dal X° secolo come Maginardus o Maghinardus e Mainardus,. formato da "magin" forza,potere (il passaggio da magin a main è tanto longobardo quanto francone) e "hardu", duro, forte,valoroso, con il significato originario,quindi, di duro,temibile per la sua forza. L'Abate Benedettino Jean de Mabillon , Abate di Reims ed erudito ci tramanda al riguardo le seguenti note relative all'esistenza del cognome Mainardi già nel V° secolo: ....di un Conte Mainardo del secol quinto, forse Mainardo/Tomo 7, ivi 419 degli Atti dei SS. Benedettini. E ancora: Maginardi e Mainard del secol quinto e und'essi Vescovo di Mans, pag. 282, 629, Tomo 7 degli stessi atti. (Fonti: Emidio de Felice e Atti dei SS.Benedettini di Jean de Mabillon)

http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/ ... 011agn.htm



Google translates the above as:

"Widespread with average frequency in the north and sporadically in the center, behind the name of German origin and traditional Franconian Meinhard, documented in the same area as the tenth century or Maginardus Maghinardus and Mainardus. formed by "image" force, power (the transition from Magin to main what is all Lombard Franconian) and "hardu, hard, strong, brave, with its original meaning, so hard, fearful for his strength. The abbot of the Benedictine Jean Mabillon, Abbot of Reims and scholar tells us about the following notes relating to the existence of the surname Mainardi already in the fifth century .... a Count Meinhard of the fifth century, perhaps Meinhard / 7 Tomo , including 419 of the Acts of SS. Benedictines. And again Maginardi Mainard and fifth-century bishop of Le Mans and und'essi, p.. 282, 629, Volume 7 of the same documents. (Sources: Emidio de Felice and Acts of SS.Benedettini Jean de Mabillon)


As you can see with this mapping tool ( http://www.gens.labo.net/en/cognomi/genera.html ), Mainardi is very common in Italy today, especially in the north; Mainardis much less so.
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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Jul 2010, 13:34

donnaelaine wrote:Is there a good place to start to look for info on DiSalvo family name?
thank you ....just starting out, so i'm perhaps asking the wrong question.
appreciate any help


You have to watch those prefixes, they often change/add/drop over the years.

http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/ ... 0004er.htm

De Salvo: "Cognome meridionale, ha un ceppo nella zona dello stretto sia in provincia di Messina che di Reggio Calabria, un altro tra Potenza e Cosenza, un terzo nel leccese, deriva dal nome Salvo o dal precedente nomen latino Salvius."

http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/ ... 0004ip.htm

Di Salvo: "Di Salvio sembrerebbe specifico di Cava de` Tirreni nel salernitano, Di Salvo ha un grosso nucleo siciliano, ma presenta ceppi anche nel Lazio, in Molise, Campania, Puglia e Basilicata, potrebbero derivare da forme patronimiche (il Di sarebbe una forma contratta per figlio di) del nome medioevale Salvus o del nome latino Salvius (vedi SALVI)."

http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/cognomi0017.htm

Salvo: "Salvi è molto diffuso in tutto il centronord, Salvini sembrerebbe originario della Toscana, con un possibile ceppo in provincia di Roma ed uno in Lombardia, Salvia ha un ceppo nel napoletano, uno nel potentino ed in Sicilia nel palermitano, ma anche nel messinese e nel catanese, Salvio sembrerebbe tipicamente campano, del napoletano, salernitano ed avellinese, Salvioli ha un ceppo nel modenese a Modena, Carpi, Castelfranco Emilia, Bomporto e Cavezzo, ed uno nel salernitano a San Rufo e Bellizzi, Salviolo, quasi unico, è campano, Salvione, molto molto raro, è dell'area tra Molise e beneventano, Salvioni ha un ceppo lombardo nel bergamasco a Stezzano, Bergamo e Treviolo, nel milanese a Muggiò, Milano e monza, nel comasco a Carugo e Como ed a Robbiate nel lecchese, ed uno nel romano a Roma e Castel Gandolfo, Salvo è specifico siciliano, Salvoni ha un ceppo lombardo nel basso bresciano, uno toscano tra fiorentino e pisano, uno nell'anconetano ed uno tra romano e latinense, dovrebbero tutti derivare, direttamente o tramite ipocoristici o accrescitivi, dalla Gens Salvia o dal nomen Salvius , di cui abbiamo un esempio nell'Epitome De Caesaribus: "...Salvius Otho, splendidis ortus maioribus ex oppido Ferentano, imperavit menses tres, vita omni turpis, maxime adulescentia...", o dal cnome medioevale Salvus."

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby favret » 01 Jul 2010, 14:04

The birth certificate clearly shows "Mainardis" as the surname and has always been known as that. How can I attach a copy of the certificate?

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby johnnyonthespot » 01 Jul 2010, 15:44

favret wrote:The birth certificate clearly shows "Mainardis" as the surname and has always been known as that. How can I attach a copy of the certificate?


I would suggest that it is still the same root name, possibly even an original spelling which was later "italianized" by dropping the final s.

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby pink67 » 01 Jul 2010, 16:03

Using this site you can see the actual spread of the lastname Mainardis in Italy:

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/genera.html

looks like a lastname from the Friuli region, in the north-east

Digit here your lastname to see in which towns it's today present mainly:

http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html

I saw there are Mainardis in Udine town and province, you can check this helpful site too:

http://www.friulinprin.beniculturali.it/ita/WebAsud/

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby Seraphina » 01 Jul 2010, 16:16

Hi Favret,

There seems to be a concentration of Mainardis still in the Udine region (Friuli-Venezia-Giulia), mostly in and around the comune of Amaro.

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby favret » 02 Jul 2010, 00:10

Thanks for the update everyone!

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby Obelix » 02 Jul 2010, 16:06

Hi guys, especially pink67 (Laura).

I just clicked on the link you gave for the Udine archives and managed to find about a dozen relatives, most unknown, over three generations from my wife's line.

She is thrilled.

Thank you so much all of you for your sharing community spirit.

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Re: Northern Italian Surnames

Postby pink67 » 03 Jul 2010, 06:31

Thank you obelix, I'm glad you found records for your wife's tree....
I'm hoping that also other towns and state archives offices will put on-line their genealogic heritage....

Ciao!
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