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Molinaro from Salerno

Postby wfmiller » 02 Jul 2010, 11:27

My Great grandmother, grandmother and great uncle came over to the US from Italy on 12/19/1892 from Naples. Their home town was listed as Salerno.

My Great grandmother was born in 1852 her name was listed on the manifest as Coglura Molinaro? Her daughter Angeline was born in 1882 and the son was born in 1889.

From what I was told my great grandfather was deceased and did not come over. I am just starting the quest to find my ancestors and any help or guidance would be much appreciated.

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jul 2010, 11:40

Hello and welcome to this forum. Those of us on this forum are volunteers but we will do our best to help you.

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jul 2010, 11:42

Could you tell us where in the U.S. your ancestors settled?

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jul 2010, 11:44

I suspect her first name was Calogera like Charlene or called Lena.

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jul 2010, 11:51

I see the original manifest and how they spelled her first name as you did. Anyway, it appears to me that she was joining her husband in the U.S., at least that is what the manifest leads me to believe.

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby wfmiller » 02 Jul 2010, 12:27

They lived in Patterson, NJ and then moved to Philadelphia, PA. From what I am told my great grandfather had passed away before they came to the US in 1892.

My father said that she had two other brothers that did not come over. I don't know how that could be. He is 90 so his memory is not the greatest. He did say my Grandmothers brothers name was Vincent and he served in the Italian Army which is all I know.

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby vj » 02 Jul 2010, 15:34

wfmiller wrote:My Great grandmother, grandmother and great uncle came over to the US from Italy on 12/19/1892 from Naples. Their home town was listed as Salerno...


Hi :D !
just for everyone's reference, your 1892 manifest

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0387

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby misbris » 02 Jul 2010, 16:09

Looks like the son's name was Carmello (Carmine) Can you confirm this?

What was Anelina's married name? maybe we can trace backwards that way.



Could this possibly be Angelina?

Name: Angelica Molinaro
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1885
Birth Place: Jorgaria, Italy
Residence: Jeannette, Penna
Passport Issue Date: 29 Jul 1921
Father Name: G B Molinaro
Father's Birth Location: Italy
Father's Residence: Jorgaria,
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby misbris » 02 Jul 2010, 16:21

How about this one? Dates don't quite match up, but censuses are notoriously incorrect.

Name: Angelina Molinaro
Age in 1910: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Antonio
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Paterson Ward 3, Passaic, New Jersey
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1909

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby wfmiller » 02 Jul 2010, 17:17

I think the sons name was carmello from what I can read on the manifest.
My father does not know, he is 90 and his memory is shot. Looks like my grandmother may have passed away around 1984, she was born in 1882 which would have made her 102 at the time of passing in Philadelphia, PA.

Of course this is from my father so I could be wrong about the passing date.
My grandmother met my grandfather who was born in Philadelphia. His name is Howard Richard Miller and he came over to Ellis Island also. Just cannot find out from my father dates or birth, death, etc. I am still researching that from another source. He was german is all I know.

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby vj » 02 Jul 2010, 17:31

Hi!
Here are some possibly related records from ancestry. com
Valarie

here's a Howard Richard Miller (24 May 1883) in 1942

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3286/1942.jpg

wife went by 'Mary'
same address as 1920 & 1930 census
1618 Parrish Street, Phila
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same address in 1930
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5383/1930u.jpg

Home in 1930:
1618 Parrish Street, owns $3500
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

head Howard Millers 48, abt 1882 PA
- married age 30, abt 1912
- parents born in PA
- truckman
wife Martina (Angelina) Millers 39, abt 1891 IT
daughter Mary Millers 17, abt 1913 PA
daughter Bertha Millers 11, abt 1919 PA
son Howard Millers 9, abt 1921 PA

boarders:
Augustine Verenay 31
Hannah Kohler 62
Anna Kohler 28
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Here's an interesting 1920 census for a Howard Miller and wife Angelina
with daughters Millie and Bertha
Angelina's age and immig dates are off quite a bit from your 1892 manifest - but close to mj's :D 1910 census find in Pattterson, NJ
There are in-laws living with them Milina (Molinaro?)

Phila 1920 census
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5093/192001.jpg

both Howard and brother-in-law Carmine are lamp lighters
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here's a 1918 WWI Draft Card for a Howard Miller (24 May 1882) who is a lamp lighter

1918 WWI Card
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1405/1918k.jpg

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby vj » 02 Jul 2010, 21:54

probable marriage record from the FamilySearch beta site
http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

Groom's Name: Howard R Miller
Bride's Name: Molinari
Marriage License Year: 1915
License Number: 328258
Image Number: 00236
Digital Folder Number: 4141877
Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

Groom name Miller
Bride name Angiolina Molinari
Marriage year 1915
Section or license number 328258
Image number 00278
Digital GS number 4141877

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby vj » 02 Jul 2010, 22:05

misbris wrote:How about this one? Dates don't quite match up, but censuses are notoriously incorrect.

Name: Angelina Molinaro
Age in 1910: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: Antonio
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Paterson Ward 3, Passaic, New Jersey
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1909


this 1909 ship manifest matches the 1910 census that mj found in Patterson
page 1
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016
page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016

21 Jun 1909, SS Hamburg, Naples to NY
lines 15-16

Antonio Molinaro 43, abt 1866
- last residence Sessa Cilento, Salerno
- leaving wife Caterina in Sessa
- destination Paterson NJ
- joining somn Gennaro
daughter Angiola 22, abt 1887

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby wfmiller » 03 Jul 2010, 00:00

Wow you guys rock, My grandfathers children are Bertha, Mary, Howard (my father).

Unbelievable :D

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Re: Molinaro from Salerno

Postby wfmiller » 03 Jul 2010, 00:27

Yes Carmine and a twin Amile? Another one Ralph, vincent and James



misbris wrote:Looks like the son's name was Carmello (Carmine) Can you confirm this?

What was Anelina's married name? maybe we can trace backwards that way.



Could this possibly be Angelina?

Name: Angelica Molinaro
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1885
Birth Place: Jorgaria, Italy
Residence: Jeannette, Penna
Passport Issue Date: 29 Jul 1921
Father Name: G B Molinaro
Father's Birth Location: Italy
Father's Residence: Jorgaria,
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)


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