Info about Felippo Pieroni

[Mimie]

Im looking for info about my great grandfather who was born in Italy and then came to Brazil
His name was Felipp Pieroni or Felippo Pieroni (I found 2 docs with different spelling)
married with Helena Venturelli
He died in Rio de Janeiro in 1959
And he was born between 1877 and 1878
As I got some info in this forum..I think he was born in Vergemoli in Lucca , Italy.
I dont have more information
I need some help

Thanks

[Mimie]

anyone??

[suanj]

Hi, here a arrival in Santos port abt a :


FELIPPO* PIERONI SÓ 29/03/1904 ITALIANO
*Filippo in italian spell
If you are sure abt the Vergemoli birthplace, you can request the birth certificate:
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Via del Giardino, 21
55020 Vergemoli (LU)
Italy

using this form letter:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

all the best,
suanj

[Mimie]

I sent the letters 4 years ago and nothing came back Im still trying to find more information about him.

[adelfio]

There are some records of Vergemoli online 1900-1910 so I researched a little and came up with this
Birth record of Luigi Pieroni son of Filippo
INDEX#25
1900 June 25th in the town of Vergemoli birth of Luigi Pieroni son of Filippo Pieroni and Elena Venturelli
Sidenote says that Filippo Pieroni and Elena Venturelli to legitimize the child Luigi they were married in 1912 Aug 17th
PG LINK TO RECORD
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,350177302
CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE

record-image (417).jpg

Marty

[Mimie]

There are some records of Vergemoli online 1900-1910 so I researched a little and came up with this
Birth record of Luigi Pieroni son of Filippo
INDEX#25
1900 June 25th in the town of Vergemoli birth of Luigi Pieroni son of Filippo Pieroni and Elena Venturelli
Sidenote says that Filippo Pieroni and Elena Venturelli to legitimize the child Luigi they were married in 1912 Aug 17th
PG LINK TO RECORD
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,350177302
CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE

record-image (417).jpg

Marty

Oh I cant Believe you just found it!!
Thank you thank you so much!
Last night I just found out about they going also from Rio de Janeiro to Argentina in 1906 ( Rio Amazonas ship )
They had their son Luigi, Giovanni and Petta ( which we knew as Anella) with them on the trip.
So their correct name spell is Elena Venturelli and Filippo Pieroni thats it! So glad

[adelfio]

Do you know what church in Rio de Janeiro they used maybe we can find there marriage record in 1912

Marty

[Mimie]

Do you know what church in Rio de Janeiro they used maybe we can find there marriage record in 1912

Marty

So they didnt get married in Italy?

Some people in my family think maybe in Guaratinguetá in Sao Paulo but I gotta do some research

Im trying to decrypt that file but some things are hard to read, the part about the marriage on the side especially.

I still dont know how to thank you..

[adelfio]

I did some researching 1900-1907 births of Vergemoli didn't find anything the other children must have been born in South America
I think maybe Filippo Pieroni and Elena Venturelli were married in the church but not civil. So in order to make the child Luigi recognized as their own they married and sent the info back to the town of Vergemoli to make him legal also looks likes Filippo father name was Pellegrino
PG LINK TO BIRTH RECORD
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,350177302
Marty

[Mimie]

I did some researching 1900-1907 births of Vergemoli didn't find anything the other children must have been born in South America
I think maybe Filippo Pieroni and Elena Venturelli were married in the church but not civil. So in order to make the child Luigi recognized as their own they married and sent the info back to the town of Vergemoli to make him legal also looks likes Filippo father name was Pellegrino
PG LINK TO BIRTH RECORD
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,350177302
Marty

Yes the only kids born in Italy were Luigi and Anellida ( Petta ), the rest of them we know they were born in Brazil.
How did you find the info about Pellegrino? ( the link attached is Luigi's birth certificate again)

[adelfio]

It says Pieroni Filippo di Pellegrino e Venturelli Elena married in 1912 Aug 19th recorded in the registry 10/14/1912

Marty

[Mimie]

It says Pieroni Filippo di Pellegrino e Venturelli Elena married in 1912 Aug 19th recorded in the registry 10/14/1912

Marty

Oh ok let me check this..thank you!!