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Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 11 Jul 2010, 11:57

Hi,
I am trying to research g grand father Emil Eduardo Bianchini Evani, born or baptism st marks square Venice about 1860 (venezia) his mother Mary Bianchini most of her family were nuns and like priests, his father Joseph Evani family ran an export company from south America probably mid to late 1800s to early 1900s sugesting family left Venice.
I have a letter from his brother from cost rica in 1901 he went by the name, Cayetano Bianchini.the letter was thanking my g grandmother for notifying him of his brothers death, and he will advice the consulate of his country of his brothers passing".

I have come to realize the years between 1859-1861 is in the awkward period when things were changing and records in venice between 1859-1870 are hard to find unless I know the parish. spent past 8 hours going through everything, and none the wiser how I go about this and I dont speak Italian let alone write or read it. can anyone suggest somewhere for me to start? thanks Trina
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby suanj » 11 Jul 2010, 13:13

Hi, the only thing that I found is abt aCayetano Bianchini ( Gaetano Bianchini) married in Costa Rica :
Groom's Name: Cayetano Bianchini
Groom's Birth Date: 1864

Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 43
Bride's Name: Luisa Quiros
Bride's Birth Date: 1867

Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 40
Marriage Date: 02 Feb 1907
Marriage Place: Nuestra Señora Del Carmen, Cartago, Cartago, Costa Rica
Groom's Father's Name: Vicente Bianchini
Groom's Mother's Name: Maria Sonchini

Bride's Father's Name: Jose Maria Quiros
Bride's Mother's Name: Josefa Quiros
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01868-8
System Origin: Costa Rica-EASy
Source Film Number: 1219731
Reference Number: 117
Collection: Costa Rica Marriages, 1750-1920
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2010, 20:50

I believe the Cayetano that Suanj :D found was the correct one...

there is a little reference in this page of Googlebooks:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Lk8wAA ... CCgQ6AEwAA

Costa Rica. Corte de Casación - 1896
En el recurso de casación interpuesto por el señor Augusto Marmocchi Musiani, por sí y como mandatario especial del señor Cayetano Bianchini, mayores de edad, empresarios y de este domicilio, de la sentencia dictada por la Sala Primera ...

Cayetano and Luisa had a son before their marriage:

Vicente del Socorro was born on 1901, he was son of Cayetano Bianchini and Luisa Quiros (married woman)... there is a notation on the birth act... the baby was not baptized...

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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2010, 21:03

Cayetano's son, Vicente Bianchini Quiros married Aida Rivera Garofolo on 20 may 1928 in San Rafael, Cartago, Costa Rica...

Image, from http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqldlt0

Vicente was born on 1899 and baptized on 1902

Aida and Vicente had at least a daughter:

Aida María Trinidad Bianchini Rivera, was born on March 4, 1929:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqldCW0

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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2010, 21:09

another reference on the web:

http://www.prolades.com/cra/regions/cam ... iana-4.htm

BIANCHINI SONCINI, GAETANO.
Naci? en 1864 y llegò en 1887 a Limon. Su residencia fue Cartago y su profesion contratista. Caso con dona Luisa Quiros, siendo sus hijos Maria y Vicente Bianchini Quiros. [ANCR: Cartago N. 300 hoja 2B].


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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 11 Jul 2010, 21:52

Thank you, this is wonderful, I am wondering if Cayetano, was not a brother but a cousin then, only reference I really have are death certificate my my great grand father spells Emile eduardo bianchini evani born about 1860, who I am searching for, and this letter, that referes to Eduardo as "sorry to here of my brothers passing", possible it could be an other relation, im not familiar with Italian terminology, On marriage cert, it states emile eduard evany, and his parents names are joseph Evany general importer (I expect south america ) and Mary last name hard to read. on eduard death cert calls him Evani and mother name Bianchini. My grandmothers ( eduard's daughter name is Marie Biancha Evani . Will look further to follow up the Gayetano bianchini, looks like a G, now on letter, this letter was translated to english as a "C" and he wrote from catargo ,
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 11 Jul 2010, 22:36

this is emil eduard marriage certificate showing parents, now brought to my attention maybe mother not bianchini I am amzed to see more than likely same name as mentioned as gayetano mother!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 12 Jul 2010, 06:40

By reading the documents you posted I can say that Emil Eduardo's mother listed on the second image is Maria Soncini.....

and about the first document this is the transcription:

Senor Don Nhutter Cox:

Muy senor mio:

he recivido su carta consular y con el major gusto le contesto que: de propriedad de nuestros padres desgraciadamente ni nos quedò nada, y mi hermano nunca vino a aquì ni me mandò dinero para tener propriedad. No se si me irè en esta semana a trabajar por la United Fruit Co.
Cuanto antes pueda irè a esa.
Cayetano Bianchini
Cartago 30/11/1909


The Cayetano Bianchini that member Suanj found was living in Cartago.... these are more than coincidences...
For sure Emil Eduardo's mother was the same (Maria Soncini) of Gaetano/Cayetano (Cayetano is the spanish version of the italian Gaetano)
About the lastname Evani, in italy it doesn't exist today....

No se si me irè en esta semana a trabajar por la United Fruit Co


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company

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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 12 Jul 2010, 06:55

This is another very interesting document for you :D

from the database Costa Rica Church Records, 1595-1992 from the free site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... html#start

Church Marriage act between:

11 June 1894:
Paroquia del Paraiso
Parish of Paradise
Telesforo Primo Bianchini, age 23, single, artisan, born in Italy, son of Vicente (italian version of this first name is Vincenzo) Bianchini and Sonsina (possible a mispelling of Soncino) Maria Bianchina was married to Celina Ramirez

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on the same database there are two child (t least) born to Telesforo and Celina, I want to show you especially this one:

Maria del Socorro Bianchini was baptized on 5 december 1897 in Paraiso, Cartago, Costa rica, she was Telesforo and Celina's daughter. Godfather was Cayetano Bianchini, Godmother was Luisa Quiros (Cayetano's wife)

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http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqlUiP0

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if you check this database you'll see that all the Bianchini listed are related (Cayetano's or Telesforo's child and grandchild's birth acts)

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... %3A1460016
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 13 Jul 2010, 03:02

Yes I have been looking and seeing the similarities, spelling differences are close match, I know our family here in australia sent photo to cayetano of emile eduard evani, why would he spell his last name different from his brother? and say his fathers name is joseph and not vincente? , i am tracing that line to see what they know, and what information they have, working to find family there now, thank you for taking time to help me here, if you find anything else please let me know, I am ever grateful, it has been ten years long searching to find information and found nothing until now, thanks to your help, didnt even see soncini, thought said bianchini, I took for granted cos of word by mouth family and death cert that mothers name was bianchini, i see now with death cert, it is not so, and i am amazed
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 13 Jul 2010, 06:31

I'm glad we were able to help you in your research...

I found this record on the site:
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/record ... index.aspx


Item details for: A712, 1892/U2689 Request copy

Title Evany, Emilio - naturalisation
Contents date range 1892 - 1892
Series number A712
Click to see which government agency or person created this item.
Control symbol 1892/U2689
Item barcode 1774210
Location Canberra
Access status Open
Date of decision 23 Apr 1987
Physical format PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)
Alternative series and control symbol A712, 1892/02689
Disposal status Retain as national archives
Date registered 01 May 1997


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http://naa12.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve ... de=1774210

you can ask for a copy of this documents:

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ECommer ... 74210&SR=Y

You may be able to find other clues... :D
Maybe Emilio had the same mother of Gaetano and Telesforo but a different father?
If he was born on 1860 he was older than the two other brothers, maybe he was son from a first marriage of Maria Soncini?

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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 13 Jul 2010, 11:52

Thank you Pink, the date 1892 fits very well, I have high expectations on this being right person, I have ordered a copy of the document, this is great!
It should at least if same person, have information he has supplied himself. hopefully a birth date and place.

Well maybe could have been first marriage,
Thank you to you all, You have been great help to me
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby pink67 » 13 Jul 2010, 12:04

:D Thank you!
and let us know what the naturalization documents say about Emil....
I hope you'll find the birth place...

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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 27 Jul 2010, 05:47

Hi again, I am still awaiting the document I sent away for, doing some reserch today and wondering if you could tell me.. what is another name or translation for name Telesforo ? I have found nothing more so far, either Gaetano, cayetano, or emilie emilio, thought I would try searching for the other brother. Regards Trina
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Re: Bianchini Evani

Postby trina333 » 29 Jul 2010, 20:43

Finaly the naturalization document is open on line to see at national archives. first page says Italy and a word under it, I am not familiar with Italy but it looks like Natza, here below, perhaps one of you could be able to tell me where it could possibly be, as it looks like it is place in Italy he was born. thanks regards Trina
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