Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

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Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby bosretd » 13 Jul 2010, 15:44

Hi everyone,

I have recently joined this site and apologise in advance if I am breaking any rules of proocol etc.

I have a ggggrandfather who was born c1800-1810 in Tuscany. He was a plaster figurine maker and arrived in Manchester, England before 1833. Unfortunately his name became anglicised by whoever wrote it on official documents and I am unable to relate it back to the original Italian. On his marriage licence it is given as Joseph Cherratziilei whilst in a census he appears as Josh Cherrozoli. Other slightly different variations of the surname also appear including that given above in the Subject.

I would be grateful for any suggestions as to how I might proceed any further in locating where he was born etc.

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Re: Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby vj » 13 Jul 2010, 16:04

Hello Brian,
Welcome to the Forum!
This may help
Here's a website that will list current surnames by region with a partial search of 4 letters or less
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html
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Re: Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby Seraphina » 14 Jul 2010, 08:56

Hi Brian,

A bit of information for you, in case you don't know about the following sites in Manchester:-

Ancoats-Little Italy
Manchester Italian Association

Both these websites are very interesting and informative.
Although your "Cherrozlei" surname many not be listed among the Italians who emigrated to Manchester, someone on one of the sites might know where your ancestor originated from. I believe plaster figurine makers were recruited from particular areas of Tuscany, so you might get a clue if you make a request for info on the message boards.

Hope this helps

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Re: Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby bosretd » 14 Jul 2010, 13:15

Hi Seraphina,

Many thanks I will follow up your suggestion.

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Brian

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Re: Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby suanj » 14 Jul 2010, 14:03

Hi, in this census the birthplace is Tuscany:

1851 England Census
about Joseph Cherryolio
Name: Joseph Cherryolio
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1809

Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Lurwing, Italy (really: Tuscany)

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Cathedral
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1s
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Cherryolio 42
Martha Cherryolio 42
Mary Ann Cherryolio 18
Mariah Cherryolio 15
Elizabeth Cherryolio 13
John Cherryolio 11
Alfred Cherryolio 8
Abraham Cherryolio 6
Joseph Cherryolio 13


it is hard to know the right surname spelling...
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Re: Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby suanj » 14 Jul 2010, 14:26

in 1841 census the surname ... is:

1841 England Census
about Josh Cherrazold
Name: Josh Cherrazold
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811

Gender: Male

Civil parish: Manchester
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Market Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Josh Cherrazold 30
Martha Cherrazold 30
Sarah Cherrazold 10
Mary Cherrazold 8
Maria Cherrazold 6
Eliza Cherrazold 3
John Cherrazold 1


it could be Cerasoli, Ceragioli .. by soundex.. more probable CERAGIOLI, of Lucca area, where it are the large rilevance of the figure makers
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Re: Joseph Cherrozlei - what is his real Italian name?

Postby stuartcapaldi » 14 Jul 2010, 14:40

Brian

As you say that he was involved in making figurines he most likely came from Barga, Tuscany

If you go to this site it will give you all the names in the Barga area

http://www.italyworldclub.com/genealogy ... a-1841.htm

One possibility may be "Del Checcolo"

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