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Italian Ancestry

Postby TonyII » 23 Jul 2010, 18:16

Researching information on Michelantonio Caterini born 1890 LaGuardia. Believe father's name is Salvatore.

Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Grazie.

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby vj » 23 Jul 2010, 21:54

TonyII wrote:Researching information on Michelantonio Caterini born 1890 LaGuardia. Believe father's name is Salvatore.
Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated. Grazie.


Welcome to the Forum!

You didn't say where you are in your research.
Normally folks collect all of their US records before starting their research into Italian records. The reason being that they want to be sure the records they find belong to the correct family. Families that follow traditional naming patterns for their children have quite a few cousins in the same comune with the same names.
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/News ... id=22.html

Do you need help with finding US records, or help with how to conduct your search in Italy (or both)

Thank you, Valarie

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Postby TonyII » 23 Jul 2010, 22:06

Valerie,

Thank you for your response, I should have provided more info.

Searched Ellis island and found ship manifest SS Florida arriving US 1906 with Michelantonio Caterini and what appears to be his father Salvatore. The story i had was that he came alone at the age of 15 but it appears he may have come with his father at the age of 16.

Reading the manifest it looks like they came together final dest. Scranton, PA and his father lists his occupation as shoemaker which would fit.

His name was changed I believe at Ellis Island but I have not uncovered that info as yet. Brothers should be Gaetano, Dominick, and Emil.

Have just started my genealogy research in the last week so have not progressed too far as yet.

It appears that there is limited free search and I am not prepared to pay as yet.

Thank you for any suggestions.

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Postby vj » 23 Jul 2010, 22:12

Thank you for the update!
If you have the correct manifest, it looks like they are from Guardia Lombardi, a comune in the province of Avellino, Campania region.

For conducting your own research, here are two great free sites that should help get you started

FamilySearch Pilot
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsea ... html#start

FamilySearch Beta
http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records

If you need a free genealogy program to keep track of your records, many folks use this one (PAF on rt side of the page)
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Please ask if you want us to post records from subscription sites.
We're all here if you get stuck :wink:

Good hunting!
Valarie
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Two additional general sites for searches by state
Vital records:
http://www.deathindexes.com/
Naturalizations:
http://www.germanroots.com/naturalization.html

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby TonyII » 23 Jul 2010, 22:23

Valarie,

Sorry for the misspelling of your name earlier.

Thank you for the suggestions. I will see what I come up with and give you feedback.

Grazie

TC.

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby juanminbar » 23 Jul 2010, 22:28

tony have talked with sal.

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby misbris » 24 Jul 2010, 01:13

I don't know if you want to do the research yourself, but I found possible manifests for Gaetano, his wife, and Emilio. If you want me to post it I will. :lol:

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Postby TonyII » 24 Jul 2010, 18:51

Misbris,

Yes please do post whatever you have found and I will try to put together. It seems as though Michelantonio returned to Italy a few times and brought over his brothers Gaetano, Dominick, and Emil. He had a sister Catherine but failed to convince her to come to the US.

Do not know the name of his mother as yet.

Having a hard time coming up with records of marrage, death, etc. for Michelantonio who became Michael A. Caterino or Catarino once in the US. Cannot find Naturalization records or name change info either so far.

Grazie,

TC.

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Jul 2010, 19:03

Hi TC :-)

From subscription site - Ancestry.com
Possible 1930 Census for Michael Caterino and family in Pittsburgh.
Age is right, and immigration date is 1906. Mechanic on Railroad.

Name: Michael Caterino
Home in 1930: Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
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Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Incoronata
Race: White
Occupation: Mechanic on Railroad
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value: Own $7000
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Caterino 40
Incoronata Caterino 37
Albert Caterino 13
Cela Caterino 8
Mary Caterino 5

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7332 ... census.jpg

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby TonyII » 24 Jul 2010, 19:19

Tessa78,

Hi and thanx for helping. This is not the right Caterino. Residence is in Scranton Dumore area possibly Willow st. Sons Salvatore, Alfonso, Albert, Anthony, and daughter Louise.

Grazie,
TC.

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Postby misbris » 24 Jul 2010, 19:24

A typed manifest, you are lucky. :wink: It looks like Salvatore went back and forth also.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

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http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... line=00282

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby vj » 24 Jul 2010, 19:29

TonyII wrote:...Michelantonio who became Michael A. Caterino or Catarino once in the US. Cannot find Naturalization records or name change info either so far...


Naturalization Papers from footnote. com

1913 Declaration

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Publication Number: M1626
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930
Publisher: NARA
National Archives Catalog ID: 580015
National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1901 - 1990
Record Group: 21
State: Pennsylvania
Short Description: NARA M1626. Naturalization records for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930, also include US Circuit Court records for 1901-1906.
Court: District Court, 1910-1930
Year: 1913
Date: 17 Sep 1913
Immigrant Full Name: Mikel Catarino
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [BLANK]
Witness 2 Full Name: [BLANK]
Year Immigrated: 1905
Ship Name: Gloria Italiana
Spouse Full Name: Mille
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1915 Petition

http://a.imageshack.us/img693/2440/peti ... lizati.jpg

another copy of the Petition
http://a.imageshack.us/img706/2440/peti ... lizati.jpg

Publication Number: M1626
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930
Publisher: NARA
National Archives Catalog ID: 580015
National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1901 - 1990
Record Group: 21
State: Pennsylvania
Short Description: NARA M1626. Naturalization records for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930, also include US Circuit Court records for 1901-1906.
Court: District Court, 1910-1930
Year: 1915
Date: 20 Sep 1915
Immigrant Full Name: Michael Catarino
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: Hyman W. Brandwene
Witness 2 Full Name: Peter Frank Benz
Year Immigrated: 1905
Ship Name: Floria Italiana
Spouse Full Name: Mille
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1916 Oath

http://a.imageshack.us/img688/4374/oathofallegiance.jpg

another copy
http://a.imageshack.us/img189/3828/copyhk.jpg

Publication Number: M1626
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930
Publisher: NARA
National Archives Catalog ID: 580015
National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1901 - 1990
Record Group: 21
State: Pennsylvania
Short Description: NARA M1626. Naturalization records for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930, also include US Circuit Court records for 1901-1906.
Court: District Court, 1910-1930
Year: 1916
Date: 26 Jan 1916
Immigrant Full Name: Michael Catarino
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1905
Ship Name: [Blank]
Spouse Full Name: Mille
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(Hi mj & T :D )

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Jul 2010, 19:37

Hi Valarie :-D
Hi mj :-D

Looks like Michael may have died between 1924 and 1930 if this is the family... :-(

Residence is in Scranton Dumore area possibly Willow st. Sons Salvatore, Alfonso, Albert, Anthony, and daughter Louise.



1930 Census - 445 Willow St., Scranton PA - widowed Amelia Caterino
Name: Amelia Caterino
Home in 1930: Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Caterino 37
Sullivan Caterino 17 (Salvatore poorly transcribed)
Alphonse Caterino 13
Albert Caterino 13
Louise Caterino 7
Anthony Caterino 5

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/259/ ... ensus2.jpg

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby TonyII » 24 Jul 2010, 19:54

Misbris & VJ,

Thank you both so much. The ship manifests are very interesting as it shows Gaetano and his wife (new info) and brother Emil. They are visiting Michele their brother and they are shoemakers which is a fit.

The naturalization record is fab.

Thanx again to you both, your efforts are very appreciated.

Grazie,
TC.

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Re: Italian Ancestry

Postby TonyII » 24 Jul 2010, 20:12

Tessa78,

Grazie, that is the family. No real regard for spelling it seems. And you are right, misspelling of Salvatore as well as surname and Michele died in 1928 of a ruptured appendix which as far as I know Italian doctors told him to address when he returned to the US in 1927/1928 after his last voyage.

Thank you very much.

Grazie,
TC.


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