Carmela Pace

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Carmela Pace

Postby chrisdamato » 31 Jul 2010, 20:12

A child named Carmela Pace was found to be buried in the plot of one of my relatives. She died in 1914 at only 11 months old. We do not know how she is related. I got a copy of the death certificate, but the parents names do not ring a bell. I can't read the names very well though. Perhaps someone can lend a hand???

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby Tessa78 » 31 Jul 2010, 20:33

I would read the father's name as Tommaso (I don't think that is a "dot" for an "i")
Mother's name looks like Angiolena (probably Angelina) Bartraroto, or Bartarato?

EDITED: The name is could be Augustina Barbarito... See this listing in the NYC marriage index.
Barbarito Augustina Sep 25 1907 Manhattan 22895
Page Tommaso Aug 25 1907 Manhattan 22895 (same certificate #, though the wrong month listed)
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Barbariti Angelina A Aug 22 1907 Manhattan 23423
Page Tommaso Aug 22 1907 Manhattan 23423

How confusing is this?????
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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby Tessa78 » 31 Jul 2010, 21:31

Here is the 1920 Census for Thomas and Angelina Pace.

Check the names on the page, and a few pages before and after to see if you recognize anyone... They were living on King Street in Manhattan. Maybe someone in your family did them a favor...

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6644 ... census.jpg

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby chrisdamato » 01 Aug 2010, 01:06

Nobody familiar on King Street. They had another daughter Carmella born in 1918. She is listed as Carrie on the 1920 census but as her full name of Carmella on the 1930 census. If that is indeed the right family, perhaps they named their youngest daughter after the little girl who died so young???

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby Tessa78 » 03 Aug 2010, 02:47

Seems like it was an important name...

Wouldn't you just love to know WHY? :-)

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby chrisdamato » 03 Aug 2010, 23:01

Yes, I very much would.

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby montclaire » 29 Nov 2010, 19:37

Many Paces immigrated from Avigliano/Potenza who named many young girls after the Blessed Virgin Mary, or "Our Lady of Mount Carmel," which refers to the local Monte Carmine named in her honor. That is why you see many, many Carmels, Carmellas, Carmelas, Carmelinas, etc. from that region.

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby chrisdamato » 30 Nov 2010, 16:43

Interesting! It's still a big mystery as to why this girl was buried in their plot. I have not been able to establish any relation to my family. Was it common for families to offer plots to close friends?

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Re: Carmela Pace

Postby montclaire » 30 Nov 2010, 16:54

Well there must have been some relation between the two families for this to occur. Try checking the occupations listed in the 1910 census for this girl's father and your relative. It's not a neighborhood thing so there must be a connection elsewhere.


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