Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

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Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby MoberlyDrake » 08 Aug 2010, 23:09

Hello,

I am seeking information on the ancestors of Carmine Luciani, who is said to have been born on 20 Jul 1892 in Cappelle sul Tavo, Province of Pescara (formerly Teramo), Italy. His father was Vincenzo Luciani. His mother may have been named Leontina Di Giampaolo.

Can anyone confirm his date of birth or the names of his parents? Does anyone know who his grandparents and great-grandparents?

He may have had siblings named Alisa, Amelia, Virginia, Arri?, Luigi, and Mariannina.

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Re: Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby misbris » 09 Aug 2010, 00:30

Hi and welcome to the forum, :D

I am posting this manifest for reference. Can you confirm?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

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http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

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Re: Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby MoberlyDrake » 09 Aug 2010, 01:23

Hi,

Yes, that's him. I should have looked at that again before I posted. It looks like his brother was Enrico, not Arri.

He had been in America before, and I believe was ordered by the Italian government to return to join the army in World War I. His son believes he served in both the Italian and the American armies, and that he received some kind of medal for bravery.

Carmine's second wife remarried after his death, left New York, where Carmine had settled, and went to California, I believe. Anyway, she took all the family papers and photos with her, leaving Carmine's children with no family momentos.

I'm largely trying to find out who his ancestors were. The LDS church doesn't seem to have any films for the right time period.

Thanks for the welcome!

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Re: Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby MoberlyDrake » 09 Aug 2010, 01:35

I just checked and "Enrico" is "Arri" on his sister Mariannina's entry on this passenger list. I knew I got it somewhere!

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=V ... 4016037742

http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view. ... na+Luciani

He was called Harry once he immigrated. Carmine, Enrico, and Mariannina immigrated to the United States. I've never been sure about Luigi, but the other girls remained in Italy.

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Re: Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby misbris » 09 Aug 2010, 02:31

Could this be an earlier manifest for Carmine? If so mother is Filomena, and he is going to brother Vincenzo.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0008

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http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0008

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Re: Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby MoberlyDrake » 09 Aug 2010, 03:43

I've seen that too, but unless my father and aunts are wrong, which they could be, he didn't have a brother named Vincenzo, and his mother's name was Leontina. They could be wrong, so I'm not ruling it out.

One of my matches on the Relative Finder autosomal DNA test at 23&Me is Croatian, so I may have Croatian ancestry. According to a bit of the history of Cappelle sul Tavo that I found on the web:

"The name probably derives from a number of small "cappelle", chapels, among the woods. The name "Cappelle" also appears in documents of the XI and XII centuries and is represented in the emblem of the town, showing 2 Gothic chapels. The first information about the medieval village date back to the XII century. The area was a busy route for pilgrims and travellers, and in the XVI century there was a military headquarter. In the XVII century farmers from Jugoslavia were brought to work on the lands of the Barons of Civita Sant'Angelo. In the XVIII century it belonged to the Figliola family, then it came under the jurisdiction of the commune of Montesilvano. In 1833 the King of Naples gave it to his swiss Baron Rodolfo de Landerset, who had married a local lady. "

Croatia was part of Yugoslavia and it's just across the sea from Capelle.

I have been able to trace all my other lines back to at least 1800, and a couple back to 1500, but I have absolutely nothing on this one line.

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Re: Seeking Luciani and Di Giampaolo? from Cappelle sul Tavo

Postby mangelini » 05 Sep 2010, 13:50

hi i saw that you mentioned that carmine had a brother Luigi. do you know much about him. as im searching for a Luigi Luciani who lived in the region of Chieti or Pescara . He was born around 1900 and had a son Vittorio and another son im not sure about. He was a land owner. he then died in the early 1940's

would love to know

thanks


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