Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

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Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby ToniD8236 » 12 Aug 2010, 13:45

Hello! I've had great luck on this site finding out about the maternal side of my Italian heritage (Cornacchia), and I'd love to learn about the paternal side as well.

I know that my great grandfather, Giovanni Antognoni (d. 6 Dec 1966) married Antonia DeAngelis (d. 21 Oct 1981). They lived in Winchendon, MA.

I also know that Giovanni Antognoni's parents were Louigi Antognoni and Rosa Cardinali (both lived in Italy). Antonia DeAngelis's parents were Angelo DeAngelis and Maria Reinabucci (both lived in Italy). My dad says he knows his family is from Fano, Italy.
So, it should look a little something like this:
Louigi Antognoni m. Rosa Cardinali --> son: Giovanni Antognoni
Angelo DeAngelis m. Maria Reinabucci --> daughter: Antonia DeAngelis

I've done a little research already on Giovanni Antognoni and Antonia DeAngelis and have been able to find Giovanni's Naturalization Record and WWII Draft Registration card, but I'm having trouble finding records for their parents. I think part of the trouble may be the spelling of the names. My nona isn't sure which spelling of the name Antognoni was used on official records. It seems as though the surname varied between Antognoni, Antononi and Antonioni.

Thank you for your time and help!

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 12 Aug 2010, 18:47

ToniD8236 wrote:...may be the spelling of the names. My nona isn't sure which spelling of the name Antognoni was used on official records. It seems as though the surname varied between Antognoni, Antononi and Antonioni...


Here's a neat site for figuring out surnames by region
You can search for any part of a surname using as few as three letters
The results will be for folks currently living in the locations listed
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html
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Have you located any records confirming Fano as a place of birth?
(ship manifest, military registration, naturalization paperwork)
Fano, province of Pesaro and Urbino, Marche region

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 12 Aug 2010, 22:25

possible 1930 census
http://a.imageshack.us/img686/45/1930s.jpg

Home in April 1930:
37 Harvard Street, owns $3800
Winchendon, Worcester, Massachusetts

head Giovanni Antognorie 37, abt 1893 IT
- married age 24, abt 1917
- immig 1919, Al
- labour, water works
wife Josephine Antognorie 37, abt 1893 IT
- immig 1919
son Ledevins Antognorie 11, abt 1919 Canada-French
- immig unknown
daughter Amelia Antognorie 8, abt 1922 NH
son Elliot Antognorie 5, abt 1925 MA
daughter Eva Antognorie 2 9/12, abt 1927 MA

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby ToniD8236 » 12 Aug 2010, 23:32

That's them! My nona (Eva Antognoni) says that her mother (Antonia DeAngelis) was also known as Joesphine. However, I think the spelling of "Antognorie" is a mistake. I've found Giovanni Antognoni's naturalization record and WWII draft registration card, both of which have his surname listed as Antognoni.

I haven't found any records yet confirming that the Antognoni family was from Fano; however, my nona insists that's where they're from. I have found one possible record for an Antonia DeAngelis arriving in New York on 17 Dec 1916 (New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Record for Antonia DeAngelis). They have her nativity listed as "Tesaro." Do you think this could be a misspelling of Pesaro? If it is, wouldn't that be a connection to Fano, Italy?

I'm searching to see if I can find out about Giovanni Antognoni's parents (Luigi Antognoni and Rosa Cardinali) and Antonia DeAngelis's parents (Angelo DeAngelis and Maria Reinabucci). So far, I haven't found anything.

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2010, 00:16

The surname on the 1930 census was transcribed incorrectly at ancestry. com

For reference here's your 1916 manifest
This Antonia is single and headed to Ontario to join her mother Maria's brother
Born in Cartoceto, Province of Pesaro e Urbino, region Marche,
If this is your Antonia, it probably means that she and Giovanni met and married in Canada
According to their 1930 census they had their 1st son in Canada and 1st daughter in NH

page 1
http://a.imageshack.us/img571/5605/1916.jpg
page 2
http://a.imageshack.us/img62/5203/191601.jpg
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Records in Italy are kept at the comune (town) once you are sure of the exact comune(s) we can help direct you on how to find your records

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2010, 00:26

Possible 1916 marriage record
Married in Sault Ste. Marie - Antonia's destination on her 17 Dec 1916 manifest
Married 6 days after Antonia's arrival, may have been an arranged marriage
Giovanni's father's surname appears to be different from his, or whoever wrote it down misunderstood
*written as Giovanni Domenico, may have meant Domenico Antognoni

http://a.imageshack.us/img814/5605/1916.jpg

Name: Geovanni Antoniole (signed Giovanni Antognoni)
Birth Place: Italy
Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Father Name: Geovanni Dunnick*
Mother Name: Rosa Cardinah (Cardinali)

Spouse Name: Antonia Deangele (De Angeli/s)
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place: Italy
Spouse Father Name: Augelo Deangele (may be Angelo De Angeli/s)
Spouse Mother Name: Maria Be??ualoucia (may be Bernabucci)

Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1916
Marriage Location: Algoma District
Marriage County: Algoma
Archives of Ontario
Microfilm: MS932_377


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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2010, 15:17

1919 Boarder Crossing from Canada
It appears that 10 mos old son Ledevino was listed on a different page

http://a.imageshack.us/img191/9859/191900.jpg
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http://a.imageshack.us/img14/1619/191901.jpg

24 Oct 1919, Sault Ste Marie, Michigan
lines 2-3
Giovanni Antonio 26, abt 1893 IT
- last residence Sault Ste Marie, Ontario
- father Domenico Antonio in Fano
- destination Boston Mass
- in US before tran (transit? may be ship arrival) Providence May 1912
- joining friend Michael Pasquale in Boston
- born in Bento Barone(?)
Antonia Antonio 26, abt 1893 IT
- mother Mary Antonio(?) in Fano
- in US before tran (transit? may be ship arrival) NY Dec 1917
- born in Fano
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son Ledevino
line 6
http://a.imageshack.us/img831/8267/191902.jpg
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http://a.imageshack.us/img213/323/191903.jpg

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2010, 18:53

Giovanni's probable 1912 ship manifest
born in Mombaroccio, province of Pesaro e Urbino, region Marche

http://a.imageshack.us/img204/1412/1912i.jpg
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http://a.imageshack.us/img132/3860/191201.jpg

8 May 1912, SS Madonna, Naples to Providence RI
line 24

Giovanni Antonioni 19, abt 1893
- last residence Cartoceto
(Cartoceto, province of Pesaro e Urbino, region Marche)
- leaving his parents in Cartoceto
- destination Sault Ste Marie
- joining his friend Luigi Tomasini(?)
note: same destination and friend as line 27
- born in Mombaroccio
(Mombaroccio, province of Pesaro e Urbino, region Marche)

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Re: Surname: Antognoni/DeAngelis

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2010, 19:07

If you would like to write to Giovanni and Antonia's comunes for their birth records (acts):

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Or other helpful form letters:
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tters.html
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Addresses:

Comune di Mombaroccio
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Barocci 6
61024 Mombaroccio PU
ITALY

http://www.tuttitalia.it/marche/19-mombaroccio/

Comune di Cartoceto
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza Rusticucci 1
61030 Cartoceto PU
ITALY

http://www.tuttitalia.it/marche/14-cartoceto/
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