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Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian names!!

Postby michellekp » 17 Aug 2010, 22:28

I am trying to find out my Great-Great-Grandfather's surname when he arrived in the US.

I found my Great-Grandfathers SSN application form. It states his father's name as Gennaro Phillips, and his mother's name as Mary (maiden name unknown).

I have been told that Gennaro came from the region of Calabria close to the city Cosenza. The town he was from was possibly San Fili. The woman he married was from the same town, and that her maiden name was the same as Gennaro's family name.

They had at least 9 children I know of:

Jim (or James): possibly born on Ellis Island (my grandmother told me this)

Bill

Al:

Rose:

Theresa:

Diane/Diana

Carmen: married a woman called Catherine Mastrianni

Richard: the youngest born in June 4 1904 (as written on his SSN application). He also attended Senn High School in Chicago.
had 2 children: Phillipa Judith Phillips (now Judith P. Johnson Emerson)
Richard J. Phillips 2


The sons were mainly in the produce business. I know that Richard Phillips worked for a M. J. Ardito & Co. in Chicago (from SSN application form)


I have been talking to my grandmother. She told me that in addition Gennero had 3 sets of twins who died young. She also told me Gennaro had been in the US before he immigrated because he had been travelling on a boat and had been all over the place. But I am not sure how accurate this is since she is not sure of where or when her father (Richard) was born. She also mentioned that her father was baptized since he was raised Catholic.


I have ordered a birth certificate for Richard Phillips, to see if Gennaro and his wife's names are on it. I figured that would be the most accurate document since Gennaro or his wife had to have filled it out. If their names are on it, I'll know the mother's maiden name which would give me Gennaro's surname before it was changed to Phillips

My problem is that the people I've talked to aren't very sure of the information they've given me. My grandmother is convinced that her father's birthdate was June 9 1904, while on her father's SSN application that he himself had applied for states his birthdate as June 4 1904. We also are not sure of the Italian surname whether it was Filipi, Filippi, Fillipi, Fillippi, Filipo, Filippo, Fillipo, Fillippo.

So if anyone knows anything let me know!!

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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby jamiecapaldi » 18 Aug 2010, 05:40

In 1910 census it shows his DOB as 1904, Illinois.

Residence: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois


I found this for Teresa's Birth:

Name: Tresina Felippo
Titles:
Residence: Chicago city, Cook, Illinois
Birth Date: Aug 1888
Birthplace: Illinois
Relationship to Head-of-Household: Daughter
Spouse Name:
Spouse Titles:
Spouse Birth Place:
Father Name: Gennaro Felippo
Father Titles:
Father Birthplace: Italy
Mother Name: Maria Felippo
Mother Titles:
Mother Birthplace: Italy
Race or Color (expanded): White
Head-of-household Name: Gennaro Felippo
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Years Married:
Estimated Marriage Year:
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year:
Enumeration District: 0600
Sheet Number and Letter: 13B
Household ID: 243
Reference Number: 71
GSU Film Number: 1240269
Image Number: 00000460
Collection: United States Census, 1900


Vincenzo:

Name: Vincenzo Felippo
Titles:
Residence: Chicago city, Cook, Illinois
Birth Date: Feb 1887
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head-of-Household: Son
Spouse Name:
Spouse Titles:
Spouse Birth Place:
Father Name: Gennaro Felippo
Father Titles:
Father Birthplace: Italy
Mother Name: Maria Felippo
Mother Titles:
Mother Birthplace: Italy
Race or Color (expanded): White
Head-of-household Name: Gennaro Felippo
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Years Married:
Estimated Marriage Year:
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year: 1887
Enumeration District: 0600
Sheet Number and Letter: 13B
Household ID: 243
Reference Number: 70
GSU Film Number: 1240269
Image Number: 00000460
Collection: United States Census, 1900

Tis shows they emmigrated in 1887!
NAMES: Capaldi-Tedesco-Tamilio-Minchella-Verrecchia-Tomasso-Franchitto-Innelli-Arpino-Caringi-Colacicco-Macari-Pinchera-Salera-D'Orazio-Ambrosino-Di Mambro-Sigliocolo-Masello
PLACES: Cassino- UK, USA, Ireland, Canada & Australia
http://www.cassino-families.co.uk

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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby suanj » 18 Aug 2010, 09:14

michellekp wrote:I am trying to find out my Great-Great-Grandfather's surname when he arrived in the US.

I found my Great-Grandfathers SSN application form. It states his father's name as Gennaro Phillips, and his mother's name as Mary (maiden name unknown).

I have been told that Gennaro came from the region of Calabria close to the city Cosenza. The town he was from was possibly San Fili. The woman he married was from the same town, and that her maiden name was the same as Gennaro's family name.

They had at least 9 children I know of:

Jim (or James): possibly born on Ellis Island (my grandmother told me this)

Bill

Al:

Rose:

Theresa:

Diane/Diana

Carmen: married a woman called Catherine Mastrianni

Richard: the youngest born in June 4 1904 (as written on his SSN application). He also attended Senn High School in Chicago.
had 2 children: Phillipa Judith Phillips (now Judith P. Johnson Emerson)
Richard J. Phillips 2


The sons were mainly in the produce business. I know that Richard Phillips worked for a M. J. Ardito & Co. in Chicago (from SSN application form)


I have been talking to my grandmother. She told me that in addition Gennero had 3 sets of twins who died young. She also told me Gennaro had been in the US before he immigrated because he had been travelling on a boat and had been all over the place. But I am not sure how accurate this is since she is not sure of where or when her father (Richard) was born. She also mentioned that her father was baptized since he was raised Catholic.


I have ordered a birth certificate for Richard Phillips, to see if Gennaro and his wife's names are on it. I figured that would be the most accurate document since Gennaro or his wife had to have filled it out. If their names are on it, I'll know the mother's maiden name which would give me Gennaro's surname before it was changed to Phillips

My problem is that the people I've talked to aren't very sure of the information they've given me. My grandmother is convinced that her father's birthdate was June 9 1904, while on her father's SSN application that he himself had applied for states his birthdate as June 4 1904. We also are not sure of the Italian surname whether it was Filipi, Filippi, Fillipi, Fillippi, Filipo, Filippo, Fillipo, Fillippo.

So if anyone knows anything let me know!!


I found:
1900 United States Federal Census
about Gennaro Felippo
Name: Gennaro Felippo
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois
Age: 41
Birth Date: Mar 1859

Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
[1882]
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Maria
Marriage Year: 1881
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 19
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gennaro Felippo 41
Maria Felippo 38
Vincenzo Felippo 13
Tresina Felippo 11
Carmino Felippo 7
Salvatore Felippo 5
Alesio Felippo 3
Biaso Felippo 1
Risolia Felippo 1/12


naturalization:
Selected U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1966 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about Gennaro Fillippo
Name: Gennaro Fillippo
Birth Place: Italy
Place of Residence: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Date of Action: 21 Jan 1890
Collection Title: Soundex Index to Naturalization Petitions for the United States District and Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois and Immigration and Naturalization Service District 9, 1840-1950 (M1285)
NARA Series #: M1285
Roll #: 55
Roll Description: F-360 through F-431

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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby suanj » 18 Aug 2010, 13:55

the 1910 census:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Genaro Phillips
Name: Genaro Phillips
Age in 1910: 30 (50)
Estimated birth year: abt 1880(1860)
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary
Home in 1910: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1882 (1887)
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Genaro Phillips 30 born in Italy, imm. 1887, NA
Mary Phillips 49 born in Italy, imm. 1887, NA
James Phillips 23 born in Italy, imm. 1887, NA
Charles Phillips 18
Salvatore Phillips 15
William Phillips 13
Alonzo Phillips 11
Rose Phillips 10
Carrie Phillips 9
Nicholas Phillips 6


1920:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Genaro Phelps
Name: Genaro Phelps
[Genaro Phlipa]
[Genaro Philipa]
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 19, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Maria
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1885
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Genaro Phelps 66
Maria Phelps 55
Salvatore Phelps 24
Biaje Phelps 23
Resolia Phelps 20
Dianicia Phelps 18
Ricardo Phelps 15

The first child, Vincenzo/James was born in Italy in Feb 1887... maybe the WWI draft registration card of Vincenzo/James FILIPPO/Phillips could be helpful for to know the italian birth town...
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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby vj » 18 Aug 2010, 14:04

deleted for clarity
incorrect records
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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby suanj » 18 Aug 2010, 14:17

I Valarie, thanks, already checking all records... the database is no complete, but I am a bit positive that Gennaro FILIPPO coming from
San Lucido and not San Fili ... the FILIPPO calabrians in Chicago coming from San Lucido...
here someone:
FILIPPO, ANTONIO 1/13/1896 SAN LUCIDO ITALY LABORER
FILIPPO, EMELIO 8/1/1892 SAN LUCIDO ITALY LABORER
FILIPPO, TONY 3/16/1889 SAN LUCIDO ITALY LABORER
FILIPPO, VINCENZO 11/12/1889 SAINT LUCIDO ITALY MACHINIST HELPER

so it very possible that also Gennaro coming from same area...
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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby vj » 18 Aug 2010, 14:22

Thank you suanj :D !
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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby misbris » 18 Aug 2010, 16:40

There is also an obit for Gennaro on Ancestry. I'm not sure how to copy it.

He died Sept 24, 1934 and left children: James, Theresa, Charles, William, Ulysess, Rosina, Carrie and Richard.

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Postby suanj » 18 Aug 2010, 17:04

Hi Misbris, interesting! no italian birthplace mentioned in the obit?
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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby misbris » 18 Aug 2010, 17:27

Ciao suanj, how are you? :D

It is from the Sept.25, 1934 Chicago Tribune. Does not mention a wife or birthplace, but gives Our Lady of Pompeii Church and Mt. Carmel cemetery.

I also found this on Castle garden, but can't find the manifest on Ancestry.
I wish Castle garden could link the manifests. :?
Do you think this could be the right family?

http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_de ... id=8748930

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Postby vj » 18 Aug 2010, 18:09

misbris wrote:There is also an obit for Gennaro on Ancestry. ...
He died Sept 24, 1934 and left children: James, Theresa, Charles, William, Ulysess, Rosina, Carrie and Richard.


Great Find mj :D !

http://a.imageshack.us/img833/3482/1934g.jpg

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Postby vj » 18 Aug 2010, 18:13

misbris wrote:I also found this on Castle garden, but can't find the manifest on Ancestry.
I wish Castle garden could link the manifests. :?
Do you think this could be the right family?

http://castlegarden.org/quick_search_de ... id=8748930


image from ancestry
lines 70-71
(under Rosa Filippo b. 1853)
http://a.imageshack.us/img200/9428/1887s.jpg

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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby vj » 18 Aug 2010, 18:33

matches mj's obituary find :D

from the FamilySearch pilot site

Name: Genaro Philips
Death Date: 24 Sep 1934
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Age: 80
Birth Date: 01 Nov 1853
Birthplace: Cosenza, Italy

Father: Francesco Philips
Father's Birth Place: Cosenza, Italy
Mother: Pasqualina Salerno
Mother's Birth Place: Cosenza, Italy

Occupation: Laborer

Spouse: Maria Philips

Burial Date: 26 Sep 1934
Burial Place: Proviso, Cook, Ill.
Cemetery: Mt. Carmel

Digital Folder Number: 4203844
Image Number: 1861
Film Number: 1907323
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: cn 26573
Collection: Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947


Information (almost) matches these record from the Cosenza Archives
SIAS Code IT-ASCS-F680779
Municipality of MONTALTO UFFUGO.
Volume number 1-PRE, document number 141 page -

Gennaro Filippo born on 30/10/1853
son/daughter of Francesco Filippo, bracciale and of Pasqualina Salerno
Notes: Luogo nascita: Castagna


and this one
http://a.imageshack.us/img62/1301/1853h.jpg

SIAS Code IT-ASCS-F680258
Ufficio Leva della Provincia di Cosenza, Enlistment year 1854.
Volume number 29, document number - page 3 section -

Gennaro Filippo, enlisted on --/--/----
born on 31/12/1853 to SAN VINCENZO LA COSTA
son/daughter of Francesco Filippo and of Pasqualina Falerno

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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby vj » 18 Aug 2010, 19:00

possible 1930 census
http://a.imageshack.us/img198/776/1930a.jpg

Home in 1930:
Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Jenaro Phillips 83, abt 1847
Mary Phillips 79, abt 1851
Rosalie Phillips 30
Deonaga Phillips 28
Ricardo Phillips 25

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Re: Great-Great-Grandparent Immigration Info and Italian nam

Postby misbris » 18 Aug 2010, 19:00

A round of applause for everybody on this one. 8) You guys rock. :wink:


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