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Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 18:12

Looking for information on Forgione, from Gesualdo, Avellino, naples, Italy.

My grandmother was Pasquelina Forgione, her brother was Vincent, they came to America about 1880's-1900's

Any in information would be greatly appreciated. Please Help!. Thank you
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 19:13

Welcome to the Forum!
We would be happy to help!
We would need a bit more information though to be sure we have the correct family:
spouse(s) names, approx birth dates, locations in the US, etc
Are you interested primarily in help finding US records or direction on how to find Italian records, or both?
Thank you, Valarie

example: possible 1906 manifest from ancestry. com
http://a.imageshack.us/img186/293/1906.jpg

8 Nov 1906, SS Sicilian Prince

Angela Tipriano (Cipriano) 46, abt 1860
- last residence Gesualdo Avellino
- destination Brooklyn NY
- joining husband Giovanni Forgione at 2342(?) Pacific Street
- born in Gesualdo
son Vincenzo Forgione 6, abt 1900
son Carmino Forgione 3, abt 1903
daughter Pasqualina Forgione 13, abt 1893

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http://a.imageshack.us/img155/9376/1906dp.jpg
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 19:48

I believe you have located my grandmother Pasqueline Forgione and her brother Vincenzo. The address also could be correct, because later they purchased a house very close by on Marconi Place, Brooklyn. Any other information you have would be so very much appreciated. Thank you so very very much.
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 19:49

I believe you have located my grandmother Pasqueline Forgione and her brother Vincenzo. The address also could be correct, because later they purchased a house very close by on Marconi Place, Brooklyn. Any other information you have would be so very much appreciated. Thank you so very very much.
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 20:50

That's great, we'll see what we can do
Was Pasqualina's married name Barbaro/Barbato?
Also, if you haven’t used these, they may help you locate New York City records for your family.
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Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York:

NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1901-1907
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 20:57

Father Giovanni living with daughter Pasqualina and her family in 1920?

possible 1920 census
http://a.imageshack.us/img525/5429/1920oz.jpg

Home in 1920:
2358 Atlantic Ave
Brooklyn Assembly District 23, Kings, New York

head Carmina Barbara 35, abt 1885 IT
- immig 1910, Al (alien)
- laborer, railroad
wife Pasqualina Barbara 28, abt 1892 IT
- immig 1905
son Dominico Barbara 11, abt 1909 NY
daughter Mary Barbara 6, abt 1914 NY
daughter Michelina Barbara 5, abt 1915 NY
father-in-law Giovanni Ferrogione 58, abt 1862 IT
- immig 1904, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- laborer, railroad
boarder Francesco Devino 41
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 21:08

Oh my goodness. Yes, Pasquelina was married to Barbaro. Yes, they lived in Ny, in Brooklyn. This is wonderful! I will be looking forward to more information. Thank you, this is great. I'm so happy.
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 21:30

Yes, yes, my grandmothre was Pasquelina Barbaro (correct spelling is BARBARO) her children were Mary, Michelina and Dominico. Us grandchildren were always told that she remarried and her name became pasquelina CEGLIO. Her three children took the last name of CEGLIO after she remarried. We were also told that her maiden name was FORGIONE and she had two brothers Vincenzo and Carmine. Pasqueline came to NY on the SS Sicilian Prince on Nov 8, 1906. Can any of this info be true. You have been so helpful, I'm so excited. Please tell me more. Thakn you a million times
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 22:03

BARBARO/FORGIONE

lalique21 wrote:Yes, yes, my grandmothre was Pasquelina Barbaro (correct spelling is BARBARO) her children were Mary, Michelina and Dominico. Us grandchildren were always told that she remarried and her name became pasquelina CEGLIO. Her three children took the last name of CEGLIO after she remarried. We were also told that her maiden name was FORGIONE and she had two brothers Vincenzo and Carmine. Pasqueline came to NY on the SS Sicilian Prince on Nov 8, 1906. ...


Hi!

Her census records are proving to be difficult to find (so far)

Here's the marriage record for Pasqualina and Carmine:

Name Marriage Date Marriage Certificate Number County FHL roll number
Barbaro Carmine Dec 9 1916 15451 (1916) Kings 1613707
Ceglia Pasqualina Dec 9 1916 15451 (1916) Kings 1613707

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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 22:09

CEGLIA/FORGIONE

First marriage?

Name Marriage Date Marriage Certificate Number County FHL roll number
Ceglia Michele Dec 24 1908 10134 (1908) Kings 1613292
Torgione (probably mistranscribed) Pacqualina Dec 24 1908 10134 (1908) Kings 1613292
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 22:32

OK Now that makes sense. Because Pasquelina first husband's name was CEGLIO. All three children had the last name of CEGLIO. At some point CEGLIO either died or went back to Italy to fight in the war. (WE were always told, never to return or died there). Later she married Barbaro. Pasquelina died in May 1966 in Queens, NY.
I can't believe you could find so much information for me in such a short time.
Growing up I knew my grandmother, Pasquelina and her brother Vincenzo, but I never knew she had another brother named Carmine.

I found ship records of the SS Sicilian Prince from Nov 18, 1906 that lists her mother Angela Cipriano (maiden Name) coming to NY with her children Pasquelina age 13, Vincenzo age 6 and Carmine age 3. They were meeting their father Giovanni Forgione in NY

Can you found out what happened to Carmine as I never knew there was a second brother?
You have been so wonderful and helpful. Thanks again
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 22:35

We will be happy to look for Carmine
Could not find a death record for Michele in NY between 1914-1916...

CEGLIA

Here's a possible 1903 manifest for Michele Ceglia
(Nice to hang on to until a confirming record can be found)

http://a.imageshack.us/img411/1108/1903h.jpg

16 Feb 1903, SS Gallia, Naples to NY
line 2

Michele Ceglia 16, abt 1887
- single
- last residence Arpaia (?) (Province of Benevento, Campania)
- destination Brooklyn
- joining cousin Giuseppe Ceglia at 2367 Atlantic Ave
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby lalique21 » 19 Aug 2010, 22:47

Amazing, amazing, I'm having such a great day because of all the information you have found. I can't begin to tell you how wonderful at feels.
I hope you can find Carmine also. Just great. Thanks again and again.
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 23:15

Thank you for your lovely note :D
Still having trouble locating other census records, hopefully we'll have more help tomorrow
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Re: Gesualdo, Avellino

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2010, 23:34

FORGIONE

Question
Did Vincenzo Forgione go back to Italy for several years coming back to the US abt 1921?
Best guess, Pasqualina stayed in the US, brothers Vincenzo and Carmine went back to Gesualdo abt 1915 (WWI)
Thank you
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Vincenzo's return manifest?

1921
http://a.imageshack.us/img32/5201/1921xk.jpg

page 2
http://a.imageshack.us/img844/5485/192101.jpg

15 Feb 1921, SS Canopic, Naples to Boston
line 30

Vincenzo Forgione 21, abt 1900
- married
- last residence Avellino
- wife Giuseppina Catone in Gesualdo
- destination Brooklyn
- in US 1905-1915 in New York
- joining father Giovanni Forgione at 2345 Pacific Street
- born in Avellino
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Vincenzo's 1927 Petition for Naturalization
http://a.imageshack.us/img188/1263/other1927.jpg

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
National Archives Catalog ID: 576072
National Archives Catalog Title: Petitions for Naturalization, compiled 1865 - 1991
Record Group: 21
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Catalog Keywords: Petitions Naturalization Immigration Citizenship
Footnote Publication Year: 2008
Language: English
Short Description: NARA M1879. Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937.
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1927
Surname: Forgione
Given Name: Vincent

Document Type: Other
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