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Illegitimate Children and Birth Records

Postby stevez » 21 Aug 2010, 00:59

When an illegitimate child was born in northern Italy in 1880 and given to another family, what, typically, do the birth records show as the parents' names? Would any records show the biological parents' names or not?

I have two, separate relatives with this exact situation, and none of the descendants know anything about their ancestor farther back than the one who came to the U.S. around 1900.

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Re: Illegitimate Children and Birth Records

Postby Tessa78 » 21 Aug 2010, 01:41

Welcome :-)

This discussion may offer some insight...

http://www.italiangenealogy.com/Forums/ ... ldren.html

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Re: Illegitimate Children and Birth Records

Postby stevez » 21 Aug 2010, 03:45

Thank you.

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Postby MaurizioPerrone » 21 Aug 2010, 04:02

stevez wrote:When an illegitimate child was born in northern Italy in 1880 and given to another family, what, typically, do the birth records show as the parents' names? Would any records show the biological parents' names or not?


Every situation is different for the illegitimate child. Sometime the mother is name on the birth act and the father no recognize the child, so is written "ignoto" for the father. If the father is unmarry, sometime he recognize the child and the mother no recognize, so it is written "ignota" for the mother. Sometime the midwife, she bring the child to declare the birth and no names is written for the parent, because the mother no wish to be name on the birth act and also the father does not recognize the baby for his own.

So you must seek to find the complete act of the birth to know if there is the parent name written, or maybe only the mother. If there is no names written and there is no story in the family to remember the name of the parents or at least the mother, then probably will be very difficult to know any more informations about the family origins of the child.

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Postby Italysearcher » 21 Aug 2010, 12:40

DNA tsts would determine if the child was related in some but simply not recognized by either parent.
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Re: Illegitimate Children and Birth Records

Postby stevez » 26 Sep 2010, 13:47

Does anyone know the possible origin or meaning of the Italian surname "Ramori"? The relative who had this name was possibly an orphan or an illegitimate child and did not take the name of the family who raised him. He was born in 1880, and probably in Bologna.

I've searched for info but the name seems to be rare, leading me to believe that it was not his biological family's surname, but a form of a word which described his birth situation. Any ideas about Ettore Ramori?

Thanks.

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Re: Illegitimate Children and Birth Records

Postby maestra36 » 26 Sep 2010, 13:57

The spice "rosemary" is represented by the surname Ramorini in Milan

(from Our Italian Surnames by Joseph G. Fucilla-p.83)


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