Trying to find out what town my aunt's family came from. Her name was Maria Marano (1893-1988). Her parents were: Pasquale Marano and Josephine ?. The 1910, 1920, & 1930 New Rochelle, NY census list Josephine's first name as Mary (news to me) and 3 different ages for her and Pasquale. I would like to know: Town in/around Naples Pasquale, Josephine, and daughter Mary were born, Josephine's maiden name. When they died, and where they are buried. Listed below is the information from the Census. I've checked with Holy Sepulcher Cemetery in New Rochelle. Their records are so bad that even if my aunt's family is buried there, they can't confirm it. Where can I look before having to contact NYS for their death records? Does anyone know if the death records would even list burial location? The ones I have for my grandparents (both died in Bronx NY 1947 & 51) did not list location.
I "think" I found Pasquale listed in the Castle Garden site. I couldn't find him on Ellis Island.
Also: See mention in 1930 Census of $52,000. What would that be referring to? I know Pasquale owned homes he rented out before 1930, some of his children lived in them after they married. Am I wrong to think one home at that time could not cost $52,000??
FYI: My Aunt Mary is not listed in Census because she married at 13 years old in New Rochelle City Hall. She lied on the marriage license. I do not have a 1910 New Rochelle Census for her and her husband Pietro "Peter" Randazzo. They were living at 109 River Street (one of Pasquale's homes) at the time with Pietro's brother Croce and his family. If someone could do a search for it, I would greatly appreciate their help.
1930 Census; Place: New Rochelle, Westchester, New York; Roll 1663; Page: 15A
Patsy MORAN, head, age 62, owns home:$52,000, b. Italy, parents b. Italy, yr. of immig. 1896, retired
Mary, wife, 53, b. Italy, parents b. Italy, yr. of immig. 1896
Anthony, son, 21, b. NY, parents b. Italy, occ. chauffer-trucking co
1920;Census Place: New Rochelle Ward 1, Westchester, New York; Roll T625_1278; Page: 8A
Pasquale MORANO, head, age 47, yr of immig 1893, naturalized 1917, b. Italy parents b. Italy, occ. janitor-speedometer co.
Mary, wife, 53, yr of immig 1893, naturalized 1917, b. Italy parents b. Italy
Michael J., son, 21, b. NY
Antonio, son, 12, b. NY
Louise, dau., 7, b. NY
1910; Census Place: New Rochelle Ward 4, Westchester, New York; Roll T624_1091; Page: 5
Patsy Moran, head, age 40, married for 16 yrs, b. Italy, parents b. Italy, yr. of immg. 1883, occ. bartender-liquor store
Mary Moran, wife, 43, married for 16 yrs, mother of 6, 6 living, b. Italy, parents b. Italy, yr. of immg. 1885
Jennie Moran, dau., 14, b. NY
Joseph Moran, dau. 12, b. NY
Michael Moran, son, 10, b. NY
Francis Moran, son, 7, b. NY
Rockey Moran, son, 5, b. NY
Toney Moran, son, 2, b. NY
Go back to ellisisland.org records and look for "sounds like", "alternate spelling" "close spelling" on top of the listing furnished for the Pasquale marano. Did the Pasquale Marano you found in Castle garden furnish you with a town name? =Peter=
gemellua wrote:...Also: See mention in 1930 Census of $52,000. What would that be referring to? I know Pasquale owned homes he rented out before 1930, some of his children lived in them after they married. Am I wrong to think one home at that time could not cost $52,000?? ...
141. Column 8. Value of home, if owned, or monthly rental, if rented.-If the house or apartment is owned, as indicated by the entry "O" in column 7, give in column 8, on the line for the head of the family, the current market value of the home as nearly as it can be ascertained. Unless the house has been recently purchased it will be necessary to estimate its value. The estimate should represent the amount for which the home, including such land as belongs to it, would sell under normal conditions-not at forced sale. The assessor's value, on which taxation is based, is not generally a safe guide, being usually below the market value. Make it clear to your informant that the values returned on the census schedule are not to be used in any way in connection with taxation and are not open to public inspection.
Also, if $52,000 is out of line for the neighborhood, could he have misunderstood the question?
She is listed as marrying at age 14. Immigrated about 1895[i].
1930 United States Federal Census
about Peter Randazzo
Name: Peter Randazzo
Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Peter Randazzo 44
Mary Randazzo 37
Anna Randazzo 19
Larry Randazzo 30
Jean Randazzo 1 7/12
Joe Randazzo 17
Carey Randazzo 14
Matthew Randazzo 9 10/12
Nicholas Randazzo 5 2/12
PeterTimber wrote:She is seeking town of origin in Italy. =Peter=
Hi Peter !
You never know which records may contain the needed clue
We've seen husband's naturalization records that list their wife's birth location and even son's WWI Draft Registration Cards that list where their father was born .
If this is correct, it's a little closer to the actual date of immigration and may be more accurate
Home in 1900:
183 York Ave
Richmond Ward 1, Richmond, New York
head Piassi Moroni 34, born May 1866 IT
- married 7 yrs, abt 1893
- immig 1894, in US 6 yrs, Na
wife Giovanine Moroni 30, born Jul 1869 IT
- 2 children
- immig 1897
daughter Marie Moroni 6, born Jun 1893 IT
- immig 1897
son Joseph Moroni 7/12, born Nov 1899 NY
Keep in mind that death records are filed in the place that the person died, not where the person lived. That would include the location of the hospital, if that is where they died.
Possibility... I found this listing in the NYCity death index. The year of birth seems right...
Kings County is Brooklyn.
Surname First Age Month Day Year Certificate # County
Marano Pasquale 68 y Jan 14 1948 1155 Kings
If you think this is Pasquale, you can send for this certificate...
All the death certificates I have (between 1905 and 1939) tell the cemetery and funeral home.
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Pietro Randazzo
Name: Pietro Randazzo City: New Rochelle County: Westchester State: New York Birth Date: 1 May 1886 Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1753932
First Name: Pietro Last Name: Randazzo Ethnicity: S.Italian Last Place of Residence: Sciara Date of Arrival: Aug 28, 1905 Age at Arrival: 19 Gender: M Marital Status: S Ship of Travel: Konig Albert
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0017
Birth Date: 1 May 1886
Death Date: Dec 1976
Social Security Number: XXXXXXXXX
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New York
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 10460
Localities: Bronx, Bronx, New York
Crotona Park, Bronx, New York
West Farms, Bronx, New York
seeming that the family lived in the Bronx.. I believe that finding the Maria Randazzo nee Marano obituary maybe we can know the italian birthplace.. I believe that Maria travelled under mother maiden name...
This person listed on Find a Grave is not my Mary Marano.
My Uncle Pietro and Aunt Mary are both buried in
St. Raymondâ€™s (Bronx, NY) with their daughter Anna and
her husband Larry. In fact, they're a few feet from my parent's
and grandparents grave. I was told that their first son
Giuseppe (who died at birth) was buried in Holy Sepulcher
in New Rochelle, but since the records there are so screwed
up - the wonderful people at the office could not confirm this
for me! Please don't get me started with that office and the
caretaker at Beechmont Cemetery. All I'll say is they should be
ashamed of themselves
WOW-Thank you for the WW1 & WW2 Draft cards.
My cousin never mentioned his dad had filled these out.
Does anyone know if this was a mandatory thing for
all male Americans? My uncle did not serve in either war.
As I mentioned, Uncle Pietroâ€™s younger sons enlisted
during WW2. BTW: All Pietroâ€™s brothers became US citizens â€“
expect for Pietro. I know this for a fact because I went to
the Bronx court house and obtained copies of the petitions.
My cousin Joe also stated his dad never became a US citizen.
(Always thought it was weird since he never
wanted to go back to Sicily.)
As far as finding my auntâ€™s obituary â€“ I think it highly unlikely.
Iâ€™m sure my cousins handled their motherâ€™s death the same
way mine did for our parents. We contacted the family
members and friends of our parents personally. We didnâ€™t
have their deaths printed in the papers. Also, requested the
hospital not give out this news to whatever news organizations
they dealt with.
With all the information you have provide, my next
action will be to request my uncleâ€™s and auntâ€™s marriage certificate.
I donâ€™t think being a great niece will allow me to request their death
certificates, but I can now ask for Aunt Maryâ€™s parents death
certificates thanks to you!
A new question for you:
My grandfather and his brothers (Pietro included) owned an
ice business called Randazzo's. It was
located at 812 (I think that's the number. I know
it was eight hundred and...) Jackson Avenue, Bronx,
NY. Would there be a record for this business?
If so, would the same apply for Pasquale Marano's bar in
Oh suanj - Forgot to say thanks for the Ellis Island info. I do have all my
uncles' arrival info from Ellis. Wish I could say the same for one of their sisters. I have been having great difficult locating her once she landed in NY. It sucks that for a woman, once they married in the USA, if you don't know their married name you're screwed.