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Bambino and Ragone families

Postby DiDes10 » 25 Aug 2010, 22:15

I figure that when I finally get to an LDS research center, I should come armed with as much info as I can.

Now I'm looking for my grandmother's parents. I have even less information about them.

My grandmother - Rose Ragone - was born in NY on 12-17-1894. She died on 9-19-1942 in Queens, NY.

Her parents were born in Italy, but I have no idea where. Based on the name Cono, I'm going to guess they also came from the Teggiano area.

I'm looking for:
Marie Bambino
Cono Ragone


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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 01:34

This looks like the 1900 Census for Cono and Mary Ragone (transcribed Ragoni) and family in New York, living on Crosby St.


1900 United States Federal Census
about Mary Ragoni
Name: Mary Ragoni
[Mary Ragone]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 30
Birth Date: Jun 1869
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1883
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Mother: number of living children: 5
Mother: How many children: 6
Spouse's name: Cona
Marriage Year: 1887
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 13
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Cona Ragoni 36
Mary Ragoni 30
Beneta Ragoni 12
James Ragoni 11
Rosa Ragoni 5
Josephine Ragoni 2
Joseph Ragoni 4/12

Cono and Marie both born in Italy, children all born in NY

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2342 ... census.jpg

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 01:47

It's interesting to note that according to this census they had been married 13 years (married in 1887). However, they have immigration dates of 1883 for both. If they married in Italy, immigration would have been during or after 1887.

Next to the immigration year column it states that they have been in US for 13 years...my guess is that the year of immigration would be closer to 1887, not 1883.

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 01:51

From site www.italiangen.org

Looks like they may have married in NYC

Babino Maria May 10 1887 Manhattan 82975
Ragoni Cono May 10 1887 Manhattan 82975

You can request this marriage record from NYC Vital Records. The last number is the certificate number, borough of Manhattan.

This record will have the names of their parents and their place of birth.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 01:53

Since you have the names and dates of birth for the children on the 1900 Census, you can also request their birth records...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... irth.shtml

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 02:03

Possible 1887 manifest for Maria Babino...


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Mario Babino
Arrival Date: 15 Apr 1887
Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian
Place of Origin: Italy;Zegiano, Italy (Teggiano)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Chandernagor

Line 661
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7224 ... nifest.jpg

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 02:11

On same ship as Marie...but a couple of pages later in the manifest ... is Cono. He is on line 743...

Name: Cono Ragone
Arrival Date: 15 Apr 1887
Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian
Place of Origin: Italy;Tegiano, Italy
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Chandernagor

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6929 ... nifest.jpg

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 02:17

On 1905 New York State Census the family is living at 382 Leonard St., NY

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9479 ... census.jpg

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 02:19

From pilot.familysearch.org

Record of marriage...lists groom's parents and bride's parents...
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Groom's Name: Cono Ragoni
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Maria Babino
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 10 May 1887
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Andrea
Groom's Mother's Name: Benedicta Ragoni

Bride's Father's Name: Luigi
Bride's Mother's Name: Rosa Saria

Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00593-9
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1556699
Reference Number:
Collection: New York Marriages, 1686-1980

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby DiDes10 » 26 Aug 2010, 20:53

Question. On the emigration logs for Marie and Cono, it looks like it says Family Dept. and Male Dept. respectively on their logs. What does that mean?

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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby Tessa78 » 26 Aug 2010, 21:17

That was probably where they were assigned on the ship...helps to explain why they weren't together on the manifest.


Interesting article on the conditions...
http://www.understandingyourancestors.c ... oyage.aspx

And an excerpt from the following site:
http://www.samemory.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=700

The crowded deck provided little room for movement with the boats, ropes and hatch covers essential for the ship's working; and then there was the livestock and their fodder. Living conditions for steerage passengers were dark and congested: berths were made of timber, two-tiered with a narrow space beneath for storing boxes. There was no privacy other than a partition separating the single men from the families and at the opposite end the single women. A long wooden bench with fixed seating ran down the centre - here all meals were served, and any tasks carried out. Ventilation was difficult in these early ships, as the hatches could only be opened in good weather. In anything other than good weather the hatches were kept sealed to prevent water getting below decks. Lighting was also a problem: oil lamps were used only between certain hours and were very carefully tended: they were in a wooden ship and the risk of fire were high. Coupled with the cramped, ill-lit and poorly ventilated accommodation for the steerage passengers were the lack of fresh drinking water, of food and its preparation, and availability toilet and washing facilities. All of these left much to be desired by today's standards.


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Re: Bambino and Ragone families

Postby rallport » 04 Sep 2010, 05:18

Hi,

I have a lot of Information on people from Teggiano,I have your family on my ancestry.com tree under the name ancona.I have been working on transcribing records from the lds and have most of them done.Let me know If I can help.

Terry Ancona
t.ancona@live.com


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