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Looking for info on Prato

Postby bobbi1261 » 28 Aug 2010, 02:15

Hi,
I am trying to find info on my grandfathers family. My great grandfather Joseph Prato was born in Ardore, Italy about 1883. He came to the U.S. between 1900 and 1909. His wife was Katherine (catherine, catarina) she died in 1917 and Joseph was probably her second husband. They had 6 children together, Frances, Anna, Camille, James, Anthony, and Nicholas (my grandfather). She already had 2 daughters, Theresa and Mary. Katherine has 2 other surnames, I assume one is her maiden name and the other is married name from her first marraige; Starta and Panetta. After her death, my great grandfather disappeared and my grandfather and his siblings went to an ophanage until they were eventualy released to relatives. I have ophanage records and newspaper accounts of my great grandmothers death. but that is all I have been able to find. If anyone could help me out in any way it would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby maestra36 » 28 Aug 2010, 02:43

Hello and welcome to the forum-
Could you tell us where in the U.S. your ancestors settled? was it in Pa.? I see some Prato from Ardore going to a brother Giuseppe in Pa. on the Ellis Island records. If in Pa, where specifically?
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby bobbi1261 » 28 Aug 2010, 03:59

Yes they lived in western Pa. They owned a farm and either a boarding house or took in boarders in Woodlawn, Beaver County.
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby suanj » 28 Aug 2010, 09:25

after Caterina murder the children was in the children home he the record abt Camille( really Carmela)


1920 United States Federal Census
about Clarloine Prato
Name: Clarloine Prato
[Chartoine Prato]
Home in 1920: New Brighton Ward 5, Beaver, Pennsylvania
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy

Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes


with siblings:

James Prato 8
Tony Prato 7
Nick Prato 5

seeming that the full name of Joseph/Giuseppe was Enrico Giuseppe Prato ....

here a arrival abt a Enrico Proto( or Prato) from Ardore in 1902:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

it is hard to say if is referred to your ancestor...
you can give more details?
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PS: I found a WWI draft registration card abt a Henry Prato in Alabama; next of kin: Fred Prato in...( unreadable town name) PA...
no italian birthplace, coal miner

the only Fred( in italian: Ferdinando) Prato that I found was born in Ardore and living in Woodlawn, Beaver County, single, photographer...
however it are just a speculation, because needing of to check the data.. to find the 1910 census for to have better idea and especially the arrival in the USA of your ancestor
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby nuccia » 28 Aug 2010, 12:06

I'm researching the families of Ardore so perhaps I can help. I am related to the Pratos through marriage. Please contact me if you are interested in exchanging information.
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby nuccia » 28 Aug 2010, 12:16

And if I am not mistaken the were from San Nicola which is a hamlet in Ardore.
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby bobbi1261 » 30 Aug 2010, 01:40

I would like to thank everyone for their kind assistance so far.

Suanj the info about the ship is wonderful and I am following up on that now. The Fred you mentioned is my Great great uncle. My father confirmed that he had a great uncle Fred in PA that was a photographer. I am able to track the family from Beaver county to present (through ophanage records and census info). Of coarse after the death of my great grandmother my great grandfather disappeared. The older folks I'm sure knew of his whereabouts but wouldn't talk. My father and his cousin did research in the late seventies and early eighties. They were told by one of the older aunts in no uncertain terms to let it go and not to ask any more questions.
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby bobbi1261 » 30 Aug 2010, 02:10

nuccia I would love to exchange information with you, even though I don't know how much help I would be to you.
My great grandfather Enrico Giuseppe's (Henry Joseph) was supposedly from Ardore. His father was Vincenzo Prato. Vincenzo according to family lore came to the U.S. during Lincolns presidency (1861-1865). He returned to Italy during the recession after the war. He was married to Frances Marabouto. They had 6 children that I know of, 5 boys and 1 girl. My greatgrandfather was the oldest born about 1883; next was Ferdinand (Fred); Domenick born 31 Dec 1885; Felix; Emaculata (or possibly Magalene) not sure about the spelling on her; and Nick (or Nicholas).
My greatgrandfather, Ferdinand, and Felix all came to the U.S. sometime between 1895 and 1906. According to his son, Domenick arrived here in 1901. I have never seen anything indicating that the daughter ever left Italy. Nick also came to the U.S., but I do not know when.
My greatgrandmother's name was Catarina (Katherine) Panetta. She was accoding to family history Tonimina, Italy (I have never been able to find a town in Italy with this name or a variaton of this name). She had 2 daughters in Italy, Theresa and Mary with the surname Starta. She married my grewat grandfather in the U.S.
That is pretty much all I know about the family in Italy.
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby suanj » 30 Aug 2010, 03:50

bobbi1261 wrote:I would like to thank everyone for their kind assistance so far.

Suanj the info about the ship is wonderful and I am following up on that now. The Fred you mentioned is my Great great uncle. My father confirmed that he had a great uncle Fred in PA that was a photographer. I am able to track the family from Beaver county to present (through ophanage records and census info). Of coarse after the death of my great grandmother my great grandfather disappeared. The older folks I'm sure knew of his whereabouts but wouldn't talk. My father and his cousin did research in the late seventies and early eighties. They were told by one of the older aunts in no uncertain terms to let it go and not to ask any more questions.

Hi bobbi1261,
here the record abt:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Henry Eurico Prato
Name: Henry Eurico Prato
County: Bibb
State: Alabama

Birth Date: 27 Oct 1883
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1509350
DraftBoard: 0

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/686/ ... oprato.jpg
next of kin: Fred Prato PA


the brother Ferdinando:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Ferdinando Prato
Name: Ferdinando Prato
County: Beaver
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1888

Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1852853
DraftBoard: 3

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8523 ... oprato.jpg


Enrico Prato in 1920:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Reco Prati
Name: Reco Prati ( Reco=Rico in italian is the diminutive of Enrico)
Home in 1920: Blocton, Bibb, Alabama
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder

Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Betti Bernardino 33
[30]
Lucey Bernardino 30
Antinenco Bernardino 9
Jeno Bernardino 3 9/12
Reco Prati 37

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8629 ... oprato.jpg

coal miner; no doubts that is the same Enrico Prato of WWI draft registration card, with Ferdinando brother nearest relative in PA..
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby nuccia » 30 Aug 2010, 04:57

bobbi1261 wrote:nuccia I would love to exchange information with you, even though I don't know how much help I would be to you.
My great grandfather Enrico Giuseppe's (Henry Joseph) was supposedly from Ardore. His father was Vincenzo Prato. Vincenzo according to family lore came to the U.S. during Lincolns presidency (1861-1865). He returned to Italy during the recession after the war. He was married to Frances Marabouto. They had 6 children that I know of, 5 boys and 1 girl. My greatgrandfather was the oldest born about 1883; next was Ferdinand (Fred); Domenick born 31 Dec 1885; Felix; Emaculata (or possibly Magalene) not sure about the spelling on her; and Nick (or Nicholas).
My greatgrandfather, Ferdinand, and Felix all came to the U.S. sometime between 1895 and 1906. According to his son, Domenick arrived here in 1901. I have never seen anything indicating that the daughter ever left Italy. Nick also came to the U.S., but I do not know when.
My greatgrandmother's name was Catarina (Katherine) Panetta. She was accoding to family history Tonimina, Italy (I have never been able to find a town in Italy with this name or a variaton of this name). She had 2 daughters in Italy, Theresa and Mary with the surname Starta. She married my grewat grandfather in the U.S.
That is pretty much all I know about the family in Italy.


Vincenzo Prato was married to Francesca Morabito (which by the way is one of the most commonest surname, along with Zappavigna, in Ardore).

It sounds like Caterina Panetta was from Antonimina which is only a few kms from Ardore.

As for Starta - this name is not common in the comuni in Reggio that I know of but variations of it are (Startari,Startaro) although I have seen it in the Milano area...

I will dig around and see what I can find - for now I have found a birth act for a Francesco Vincenzo Prato son of Filippo and Elisabetta Macri born in 1838 in Ardore---

http://mofrad.net/ardore/Nati/1838/068.jpg
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby nuccia » 30 Aug 2010, 05:28

Errico Felice..


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Felice Prato
Name: Felice Prato
County: Beaver
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1892
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1852853

77 Sheffield Ave Woodlawn PA is the same person as


Social Security Death Index
about Enrico Prato
Name: Enrico Prato
SSN: 261-30-5822
Born: 9 Sep 1892
Died: 15 Jan 1991
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (Before 1951)


Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
about Enrico Felix Prato
Name: Enrico Felix Prato
Death Date: 15 Jan 1991
County of Death: Broward
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 98
Race: White
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1892
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby nuccia » 30 Aug 2010, 05:44

I find this census record pretty interesting..

1930 United States Federal Census
about Felix Prato
Name: Felix Prato
Home in 1930: Hialeah, Dade, Florida
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Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose Prato
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Felix Prato 35
Rose Prato 32
Francis Prato 9 (All children born in New York)
Fred Prato 8
Mary Prato 7
Carmela Prato 4 11/12
Angelene Prato 1 11/12
Henry Prato 40 (Brother born in Italy)
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby nuccia » 30 Aug 2010, 06:09

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 (World Archives Project)
about Emroce Prato
Name: Emroce Prato
State: Pennsylvania
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Western District, Pennsylvania
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 46891
Roll Description: (Roll 310) Petitions 46846-47070
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. District Court, 1820-1930, and Circuit Court, 1820-1911, for the Western District of Pennsylvania
Archive Series: M1537
Archive Roll: 310

Enrico Prato, Pipe Cutter, Born on 9th Nov 1892 in Ardore. Immigrated in 1911 aboard the Regina di Italia. Wife Mary (Maria Rosa 19 Jan 1895-3 Jan 1979) and children Francis, 13 Sep 1921 and son Ferdinando 13 Oct 1922 born in Woodlawn PA. This confirms that they are the same family as the ones in the 1930 Census minus a few little "white lies".
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby suanj » 30 Aug 2010, 09:01

nuccia wrote:I find this census record pretty interesting..

1930 United States Federal Census
about Felix Prato
Name: Felix Prato
Home in 1930: Hialeah, Dade, Florida
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Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose Prato
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Felix Prato 35
Rose Prato 32
Francis Prato 9 (All children born in New York)
Fred Prato 8
Mary Prato 7
Carmela Prato 4 11/12
Angelene Prato 1 11/12
Henry Prato 40 (Brother born in Italy)


Nuccia, you think that Henry Prato brother of Felix could be Enrico Giuseppe Prato? the age not matching, but it is a usual error... what is interesting that declaring himself single, as :

Enrico Prato in 1920:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Reco Prati
Name: Reco Prati ( Reco=Rico in italian is the diminutive of Enrico)
Home in 1920: Blocton, Bibb, Alabama
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Betti Bernardino 33
[30]
Lucey Bernardino 30
Antinenco Bernardino 9
Jeno Bernardino 3 9/12
Reco Prati 37


in effects a:

Florida Death Index, 1877-1998
about Henry Prato
Name: Henry Prato
Death Date: 1936
County of Death: Dade
State of Death: Florida
Race: White
Gender: Male

it could be the Enrico Giuseppe Prato that we are searching for?
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Re: Looking for info on Prato

Postby suanj » 30 Aug 2010, 09:04

MAYBE NO MORE DOUBTS:
Name: Henry Prato
Death Date: 07 May 1936
Death Place: Precinct 9, Dade, Florida
Gender: Male
Race (Original): white
Race (Expanded): White
Death Age: 53y

Estimated Birth Year: 1883
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Ardore, Italy
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Vinganzo Prato
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Frances Marabouto
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Occupation: Laborer
Street Address: NW 79th St & 34th Ave
Place of Residence:
Cemetery: Miami Mem Park
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 11 May 1936
Funeral Home:
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Film Number: 2135881
Reference Number: CN 8651
Collection: Florida Deaths, 1877-1939
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