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Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby lilbees » 31 Aug 2010, 15:46

I have really hit a dead end on this one. Have tried almost everything to locate the ship's manifest for Catello Discolo (in the U.S. spelled Discola) born 1862. I located his wife's arrival w/son in 1896. Believe me, it really took some time.

Maria Vincenza Rescigno w/son Gio (Giovanni) arrived 24 Aug 1896 on the ship Bolivia. She was listed as Ma. V. Resegno.

The information I have is that Catello also immigrated in 1896. Obviously, not with her but earlier in the year.

Catello used his name on the 1910 and 1920 census. Have not located the 1900 census for the family as yet. Am just now checking the 1905 census for New York. The family lived in Manhatten on Elizabeth Street from 1910 thru 1920.

Any help would be great.

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Edit: The family was from Castellammare di Stabia, Naples.
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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby Biff83 » 31 Aug 2010, 16:13

Maria Vincenza Rescigno w/son Gio (Giovanni) arrived 24 Aug 1896 on the ship Bolivia. She was listed as Ma. V. Resegno.


1896 Bolivia manifest--lines 209 and 210
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0210

I believe son's name is Ciro on the manifest.

Still looking for a manifest for Catello.

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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby lilbees » 31 Aug 2010, 17:10

Hey Biff, yep, on the manifest the son's name is Ciro. Actually his real name is Giovanni.

Hope you have good luck finding Catello's.

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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby lilbees » 01 Sep 2010, 11:58

Hi Biff, had any luck looking for the manifest for Catello?

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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby Biff83 » 01 Sep 2010, 12:56

lilbees wrote:Hi Biff, had any luck looking for the manifest for Catello?

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No luck thus far but I'll continue to search.

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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby lilbees » 01 Sep 2010, 13:24

Hi, checked Ellis Island, Steve Morse, other ports, nothing.

A bit of history:

Ma. Vincenza arrived with child named Ciro which I learned was correct and have a birth record for Ciro.
Other children prior to arrival were Gennaro and Giovanni who did not survive soon after birth. Gennaro b. 1892, Ciro b. 1893, Giovanni b. Apr 1896. Ma. Vincenza's arrival was Aug 1896.

Next child born was in the U.S., Maria Carmela b. Jul 1897 and a bunch yearly thereafter for a full count of 11.

The time frame is small for Catello's arrival and have come up with nothing.

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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby suanj » 01 Sep 2010, 14:23

Hi,
just a my suggestion:

in 1920

1920 United States Federal Census about Cattello Discola
Name: Cattello Discola
[Catiello Discola]
[Cattello Discala]
[Cattello Discola??]
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 2, New York, New York
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1896
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Cattello Discola
58
Carmela Discola
22
Ralphine Discola
20

Marie Discola
18
Salvatore Discola
16
Julia Discola
10


in 1910

1910 United States Federal Census about Discollo Cattello
Name: Discollo Cattello
[Discollo Discola]

Age in 1910: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary F R Cattello
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 14, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1896
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Household Members: Name Age
Discollo Cattello
47
Mary F R Cattello
42
Camella Cattello
13
Chinarans Cattello
11
Raphael Cattello

11
Mary Cattello
9
Salvatore Cattello
7
Julia Cattello
1

in 1900???

1900 United States Federal Census about Frank Discola
Name: Frank Discola
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 57 ( really: 37)
Birth Date: Jan 1863
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1896
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary Discola
Marriage Year: 1891
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9
Occupation: View on Image

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Household Members: Name Age
Frank Discola
57 (37)
Mary Discola
31
Jennie Discola
7
Carmile Discola
3
Ralph Discola
1

It could be the same family of 1910 and 1920 censuses???

because a :

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Franiesro Discale
Name: Franiesro Discale
Arrival Date: 21 May 1895
Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Havre
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Scandia
( by ancestry.com)

ship's manifest:
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2853 ... iscale.jpg

First Name: Francesco
Last Name: Discale
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: May 21, 1895
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: M Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Scandia
Port of Departure: Hamburg via Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0650
(by ellisisland.org)


if the children matching with 1900 census... it could be that the real first name was Francesco and not Catello?? or maybe he was born as Francesco Catello??

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Re: Hunting for Ship's Manifest

Postby lilbees » 01 Sep 2010, 15:07

Thanks Suanj.

Have the 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 census for the family and confirm what you found. I am sure the census taker wasn't able to understand on the 1900 census.

I also have the birth records for the children born in Italy as well as Catello and Maria Vincenza's.

It could be Catello had a baptismal name in addition but I have not found one.

It could be that he came over in 1895 while Maria Vincenza was newly pregnant with Giovanni. The first born son Gennaro and the last born Giovanni may have died in infancy. So Maria came over with just Ciro. I haven't had a chance to look to confirm since the site is not functioning today.

I did confirm about Ciro with a family member. He is buried with his mother and father at St. Michael's in Queens.

Will look again at the manifest you found. I believe it said he was going to his brother Gennaro. He did have an older brother by that name.

Who knows if it is the correct manifest or where they might have come up with the name Francesco.

Guess I will rest my brain for now and hope another will come up.

Thank you again to Biff and Suanj, always appreciated.

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