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Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 11 Sep 2010, 20:26

Hi everybody!

I'm lost! Can you help me? I do some research to find some members of my family who might be in the US and this is difficult! I'm looking information about Carmelo MUCCI and his wife Philomène (from Torino di Sangro).
He was my great-great-grandfather. He immigrated to New-York in the late 19th century, he had 5 childrens : Cialino (not sure for the firstname), Elisa ( 2, 3 childrens but I don't know the names) , Anna (who had 3 childrens : Giuseppe, Jovhanna, Yolande), Maria (husband's name: Lorette) and Louis (Luigi) who was born in 17 novembre 1912 in New-York (perhaps others were also born in New-York because Louis was the youngest) . Around 1915, Philomène returned to Italy with the childrens... but my great-great- grandfather stayed in New-York and died there... His wife and the childrens stayed in Italy.
Louis (my great-grand-father) and his wife Anna Marino had 3 childrens: Ottavio, Aldo and Anthonio. Louis died in 1984.

So after all these explanations :roll: , i would like to have some informations about Carmelo Mucci and perhaps his childrens... Could you help me? Thanks :D
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2010, 13:09

Hi Mathieu!
I got your PM this morning.
I tried to find some record of your family in NY without success yesterday.
Do you have birth dates for Carmelo and Philomène?
What was Philomène's maiden name?
Where in NY was Luigi born? (New York City?, Brooklyn? or another city?)
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 13 Sep 2010, 13:26

Hi Valérie!

Thanks for your quick answer :) Unfortunately, I don't have the Philomène's name and I don't have the both birth dates :( My grandfather don't remember them. I have just the birth date of my great grandfather Louis (Luigi) Mucci who was born the 17th november 1912 in N-Y. Perhaps philomène's name would be on his birth certificate but I don't know where I could find it?

Thanks :)
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2010, 13:36

ma-thiieu wrote:... I have just the birth date of my great grandfather Louis (Luigi) Mucci who was born the 17th november 1912 in N-Y. Perhaps philomène's name would be on his birth certificate but I don't know where I could find it?...


We can give you an address where to write for his birth certificate if you know where he was born.
New York City has one address, New York state has another
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2010, 13:41

Not sure if you have the address for writing away for Carmelo's birth and possibly marriage record?
Valarie

Address:

Comune di Torino di Sangro
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza Umberto I
66020 Torino di Sangro CH
ITALY


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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 13 Sep 2010, 13:54

Louis (Luigi) Mucci was born in NYC. He was very young when he left US with his mother so he didn't know the exact address but it was in NYC. Thanks a lot for your help!
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2010, 14:10

ma-thiieu wrote:Louis (Luigi) Mucci was born in NYC. He was very young when he left US with his mother so he didn't know the exact address but it was in NYC...


New York City
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/vr/vrbappl.shtml
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 13 Sep 2010, 14:26

Many thanks!
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby suanj » 14 Sep 2010, 16:13

I found only a Mucci, born in Torino di Sangro and with the wife Filomena, but not Carmelo or Carmine first name:

First Name: Domenico
Last Name: Mucci

Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Torino Langio, Italy
Date of Arrival: Dec 16, 1909

Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Oceania (1909)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0005

Pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005
Pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005
but cannot be your ancestor because the family lived reunited in the 1920
1920 United States Federal Census
about Domenick Mucei Name: Domenick Mucei
[Domenick Mucci]
[Dominick Mucei]
Home in 1920: Waterbury Ward 3, New Haven, Connecticut
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Philomena Mucei
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
[Single]
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1910
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Domenick Mucei 38
Philomena Mucei 36
Sanina Mucei 11
Armonto Muceia 7
Tony Mucei 5
Mario Mucei 3
Alfred Muceia 1

and the children having different first names...
I cannot find your ancestor... just a:
Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 about Carmme Mucci
Name: Carmme Mucci
[Carmine Mucci]

Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1904
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Romanic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Franco Trabucco (no.. the name is wrong, joining at Candeloro Scioti-spell?-brother in law)
Last Residence: Italy


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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 14 Sep 2010, 17:39

Hi Suanj!

Thank you for your research :)
Yes, Domenico Mucci can not be my great great grandfather. Louis Mucci was the youngest and was born in 1912, Domenico was 30 years old in 1912... and the second one too.
I found a Carmelo Mucci :

First Name: Carmelo
Last Name: Mucci
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: Oct 07, 1895
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Britannia
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0012

[url=http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=/cgi-bin/tif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\IMAGES\\M237-0649\\M237-06490365.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=103042060012&name=Carmelo%26nbsp;Mucci&doa=Oct+07,+1895&port=Naples&line=0012]Original Manifest[/url]

but the gender "Female" is crossed out and there isn't the marital status and the last place of residence...

Is it possible that the gender would be wrong?

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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby suanj » 14 Sep 2010, 19:20

I know not if the gender is right... seeming of yes ...
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 13 Feb 2012, 20:50

Hi Everybody,

I come back with more informations about Carmelo Mucci!

He was not called Carmelo but Carmine Mucci. He was born in 1882 and was married with Carmela Scioli (1885).

Your research was right, Suanj!

This men was really my great-great father.
His brother-in-law was Candeloro Scioli (not Scioti) from Torino di Sangro.

Could anyone send me the manifest for this Carmine Mucci?

Name: Carmme Mucci
[Carmine Mucci]

Arrival Date: 4 Apr 1904
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Romanic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Franco Trabucco (no.. the name is wrong, joining at Candeloro Scioti-spell?-brother in law)
Last Residence: Italy
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby Tessa78 » 13 Feb 2012, 21:02

Here is the manifest for Carmine Mucci, 1904, SS Romanic

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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 13 Feb 2012, 21:05

Many many thanks, Tessa78!
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Re: Information about Carmelo Mucci

Postby ma-thiieu » 15 Feb 2012, 23:43

I do have another request...

I have the death certificate of Luigi Mucci, my great grand-father who was borned in New-York the 17th November in 1912 and died in Belgium the 5th september 1984.

Is someone could find his birth certificate?

Thank you in advance.
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