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Census record help

Postby scannavino » 26 Sep 2010, 17:19

Hi

I can't find any 1920 census records for my ancestors. I know they lived here in the USA before 1920, because my cousin Violet (age 94) told me and also she was born in 1917.

I'm looking for:

Andrea La Terra or Laterra (on the 1930 census they spell it Latera) idk why
Santa La Terra or Laterra

Angela or Angelina Tabbacchino (on the 1930 census, they spell it Tabbacchero, idk why)

Vincent Antonio Tabbacchino


I found their 1930 census records fine, but can't find anything for 1920.

Hopefully you guys can help!
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Postby maestra36 » 26 Sep 2010, 17:21

where were they living in 1930?

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Postby vj » 26 Sep 2010, 19:02

For reference, are these the correct records in 1930?
Thank you, Valarie

scannavino wrote:...I can't find any 1920 census records for my ancestors.
Andrea La Terra or Laterra (on the 1930 census they spell it Latera) idk why
Santa La Terra or Laterra...


1930 census
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4477/1930hj.jpg

Home in 1930:
560 15th Street, owns $8000
West New York, Hudson, New Jersey

Santa Latera 45, widowed
Rosario Latera 17
Josephine Latera 15
Lilian Latera 15
Salvatore Latera 11
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scannavino wrote:...I can't find any 1920 census records for my ancestors...
Angela or Angelina Tabbacchino (on the 1930 census, they spell it Tabbacchero, idk why)
Vincent Antonio Tabbacchino...


1930 census
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6992/1930q.jpg

Home in 1930:
444 23rd Street, owns
West New York, Hudson, New Jersey

Vincent Tabbacchero 42
Angelina Tabbacchero 46
Joseph Tabbacchero 16
Anna Tabbacchero 15
Jeannett Tabbacchero 12
Violet Tabbacchero 8
Alfred Tabbacchero 6

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Postby johnnyonthespot » 26 Sep 2010, 19:20

FWIW, the Latera's were not at 560 15th Avenue in 1920. Census on ancestry . com
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Postby vj » 26 Sep 2010, 21:08

Tabbacchino

On 1930 census children born in 3 different states...
1914 NJ, 1915 NY, 1918 CT, 1922 NJ, 1924 NJ

Jun 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9420/1917.jpg
Antonio Tabbacchino
101 Cortland St, Tarrytown, Westchester, NY
born 10 Mar 1888

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Postby Tessa78 » 26 Sep 2010, 21:55

Hi :-)

Don't know if you already have this...

Border Crossing for Antonio Tabbachino at Niagara Falls, 1912
Leaving wife Angela in Ragusa, Italy
Destination, West New York, New Jersey...

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4267 ... crossi.jpg

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Postby Tessa78 » 26 Sep 2010, 22:00

Following up on Valarie's WWI registration Card... (Hi Valarie :-D )

WWII Registration card for Vincent Antonio Tabbacchino (April 1942

Owns Grocery Business in West NY, NJ
Wife Angelina...

Side 1
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6778 ... nowwii.jpg

Side 2
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4792 ... cchino.jpg

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Postby vj » 26 Sep 2010, 22:19

Hey T :D !
These two families are tough to find in 1920!
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Postby johnnyonthespot » 26 Sep 2010, 23:16

vj wrote:Tabbacchino
Jun 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9420/1917.jpg
Antonio Tabbacchino
101 Cortland St, Tarrytown, Westchester, NY
born 10 Mar 1888


Not at this address in the 1920 census. New York State, Westchester County, North Tarrytown, District 66, Ancestry . com image 19 of 36
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Postby johnnyonthespot » 26 Sep 2010, 23:32

Any chance that one or both of these families simply was not in the US at the time of the 1920 census?

I had an uncle who was working in Pennsylvania coal mines during the 1910 census and then living in Westchester County, NY by 1930. Absolutely could not find a 1920 census for him. Drove me crazy.

Turns out he returned to Italy in 1915, served in the Italian Army throughout WWI, and returned to the US in the latter half of 1920, hence he missed the census.
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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2010, 08:00

Have you noticed that at the time of her first arrival in the U.S. (1911) Andrea's wife Santa Scannavino stated she was joining her husband on 34 Mulberry Street NYC?
She was travelling with her child Carmelina (female) age 6 and Giovanna (female) 7? months.

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2010, 08:48

From Ancestry.com:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Andrew Sattera
Name: Andrew Sattera
[Andrew Gattern]
Home in 1920: Guttenberg, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Lynda Sattera
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1907
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Sattera 38 head, born in IT, PA (filled the first paper for NA)
Lynda Sattera 34 (Sunda), born in IT, immigr. year 1910
Mildred Sattera 16 (Carmelina) daughter, born in IT, immigr. year 1910
Jennie Sattera 14 [19] (Giovanna) daughter, born in IT, immigr. year 1910
Sirous Sattera 7 (Rosario?), son, born in NJ
Josephine Sattera 6 daughter, born in NJ
Lillian Sattera 4 daughter, born in NJ
Minnie Sattera 0 [10/12] son, born in NJ

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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2010, 11:24

Tessa78 wrote:Hi

Don't know if you already have this...

Border Crossing for Antonio Tabbachino at Niagara Falls, 1912
Leaving wife Angela in Ragusa, Italy
Destination, West New York, New Jersey..

He stated he has been resident in Toronto from 3/31/1911 to 5/13/1912

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4267 ... crossi.jpg



Don't know if this is the same arrival or another later:


Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Antonio Tabacchione
Name: Antonio Tabacchione
Arrival Date: 28 May 1912
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birthplace: Vittoria
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)

Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Wife Angela Pagusa
Arrival Contact: Brother-in-law Andrew La Torre
Record has photo?: No

image:
http://postimage.org/image/sqanion8/

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Postby vj » 27 Sep 2010, 13:25

Hey Laura :D !
Great find on the 1920 LaTerra census
Valarie

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Postby Tessa78 » 27 Sep 2010, 13:42

pink67 wrote:
Tessa78 wrote:Hi

Don't know if you already have this...

Border Crossing for Antonio Tabbachino at Niagara Falls, 1912
Leaving wife Angela in Ragusa, Italy
Destination, West New York, New Jersey..

He stated he has been resident in Toronto from 3/31/1911 to 5/13/1912

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4267 ... crossi.jpg



Don't know if this is the same arrival or another later:


Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Antonio Tabacchione
Name: Antonio Tabacchione
Arrival Date: 28 May 1912
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birthplace: Vittoria
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)

Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Departure Contact: Wife Angela Pagusa
Arrival Contact: Brother-in-law Andrew La Torre
Record has photo?: No

image:
http://postimage.org/image/sqanion8/

Laura


Hi Laura :-D Great finds!

Looks like the same crossing/manifest...
I inadvertently left out the second page in my post, so here it is...
Dates match, as does the destination to brother-in-law Antonio LaTorre...

Border Crossing/manifest - page 2
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1521 ... ssing2.jpg

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