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Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenesa?

Postby jpetrelli » 03 Oct 2010, 20:08

I was hoping this forum could help me passed a roadblock I am having regarding my GGF Augustus Tranello.

What I know about Augustus is:
Born: May 1868
Died: September 8, 1954
Naturalized: March 19, 1900
Father: Angello
Mother: Anne Casselis (best guess from a poor quality document image).
First Wife: Mary UNKNOWN (Possibly DiPerno or Perina)
Second Wife: Giuseppina Aramini
Children: Five sons and one daughter.


His obituary says that he was a member of "Society Marinio Elenesa, a group of persons born in Marinio Elenesa, Italy".
-I can not identify Marinio Elenesa. Is it perhaps, Elena Marina, Taranta, Puglia, Italy?

He settled in Farmersville, NY and eventually in Rochester, NY.

I have identified one brother, Thomas, from NY Census documents. This line went by the line Tranella

I was hoping to investigate this family line back to Italy, but do not have any facts to narrow the search.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 20:37

Do you have a manifest for Augusto's arrival?

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 20:42

1900 Census Information

Name: Augustis Trauello
[August Tranello]
Home in 1900: Farmersville, Cattaraugus, New York
Age: 32
Birth Date: May 1868
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1894
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary Trauello
Marriage Year: 1899
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Augustis Trauello 32
Mary Trauello 18
Fred Trauello 8/12

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 20:48

1920 Census information

Name: Gustus Tranello
[Gustus Trovillo]
Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 11, Monroe, New York
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Josephine Tranello
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1893
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gustus Tranello 50
Josephine Tranello 35
Angelo Tranello 19
Victor Tranello 16
Lawrence Tranello 14
Dominic Tranello 15
Joseph Tranello 8

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 20:56

I noticed from your posted photos and documents on Ancestry that you have Augustus' Naturalization Certificate...

Do you also have his first papers? These will hold more information than the certificate, and should have the place of birth.

Using the # on the Nat. Certificate, you can request is papers from NARA for a $7.50 fee. Usually you will receive Declaration of Intent, Certificate of Arrival, and Petition to Naturalize.

This site:
https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonl ... chives.gov

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 21:01

If he had a Social Security #, you can also request his SS application.
This costs about $27, and should have his place of birth and his parents' names (including his mother's maiden name.)

http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby jpetrelli » 03 Oct 2010, 22:48

T,

Tessa78 wrote:Do you have a manifest for Augusto's arrival?

No. I cannot find any definitive travel related documents for any confirmed Tranello relatives.
There are a few passenger lists with the name, which I believe is an uncommon surname, but I cannot tie these individuals back to my known relatives.

Tessa78 wrote:I noticed from your posted photos and documents on Ancestry that you have Augustus' Naturalization Certificate...

I will follow your suggestion.
FYI, I'm not certain I have kept my Ancestry tree up-to-date (they need better SYNCHRONIZING capabilities). I will upload current data now for you to review for any other suggestions/ideas.

Thank you for these suggestions for getting more information. I will look into these. I'm not sure where else to search for more clues.

Thanks again for the tips.

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Re:Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenesa

Postby jpetrelli » 03 Oct 2010, 22:56

Can anyone provide guidance about his obituary's Marinio Elensa reference?

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby oilman19 » 03 Oct 2010, 23:11

Jim

Researching surnames Ianniello, Tamburrino, Mattora/Martora/Mattori & Scialla in Santa Maria Capua Vetere, Caserta, Campania.

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 23:16

Still working on the "Marinio Elenesa" puzzle :-?


Meanwhile, here is a site for the comunes listed alphabetically...
I searched, but not sure... maybe something will "hit" you :-)
http://www.italyworldclub.com/8000_italian_communes/

Is the Society still functioning in Rochester? Is there someone you could contact? Or was it actually an "overseas" organization?

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Oct 2010, 23:33

I would suggest you start another thread in the "Locations in Italy" forum (second one down on the forums page)

Post your question about what/where "Marinio Elenesa" might be :-)

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Postby jpetrelli » 03 Oct 2010, 23:54

oilman19 wrote:fultonhistory.com/Proc...ehtml&.pdf
Is this possibly a daughter?

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Jim,

This is very interesting and definitely family. I just learned about this story this week when connecting and interviewing older family members (who unfortunately have not been able to provide additional, substantial family facts). They were not sure about the details or if it was even a fact.

My GGM married Augustus in 1914, so this must be a daughter from his first marriage. The interesting thing is that my GM, Augustus and Giuseppina's daughter and only child together, was named Ann.

I don't know how I missed this... I searched the Fulton website extensively. Thank you for uncovering this article. Please let me know if you have any tricks or tips that you used to find the article.

Joe

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby jpetrelli » 04 Oct 2010, 00:12

Tessa78 wrote:I would suggest you start another thread in the "Locations in Italy" forum (second one down on the forums page)

Post your question about what/where "Marinio Elenesa" might be :-)

T.

I posted a messaged in the "Locations in Italy" forum as you suggested.
http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/view ... tml#137899

Tessa78 wrote:Is the Society still functioning in Rochester? Is there someone you could contact? Or was it actually an "overseas" organization?

T.

I have not been able to find any reference to this society.


I will keep looking as well. Thank you.

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Postby oilman19 » 04 Oct 2010, 00:18

I'm afraid I haven't any tricks or tips. I simply searched the surname and spotted this article. I also saw a few articles about Thomas in the early 20's and some of the trouble he got himself into. I didn't see any genealogical value in those clippings though.
It sounds like you have been doing a pretty thorough research.
I have tried my resources, but can't find anything on that society. It probably doesn't exist today.
Good luck.
Jim

Researching surnames Ianniello, Tamburrino, Mattora/Martora/Mattori & Scialla in Santa Maria Capua Vetere, Caserta, Campania.

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Re: Seeking information on Augustus Tranello. Marinio Elenes

Postby maestra36 » 04 Oct 2010, 03:29

I typed the name of the society in Italian (Società Marinai Elenesi)
in a google search and this came up:

ANNO 1946
Verso la fine dell’anno della liberazione della nostra terra dal giogo nazifascista, i nostri concittadini residenti a Rochester ( New York ) riuniti e affratellati nel sodalizio “Società Marinai Elenesiâ€


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