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Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby jcravi » 22 Oct 2010, 17:39

I am researching Louis Perillo born either Jan 1861 through 1863 in Italy (no town given). He immigrated anywhere from 1880 to 1882. His wife's name was Madeline or Magdelana. They settled down on 3rd Avenue and 40th in Brooklyn, NY, and he owned a Barbershop on 3rd Avenue and I believe 42nd Street. I found most of this information in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census. I believe they were married in 1880 or 1890. In the 1900 Census the name is listed as Perali.

Does anyone know how I can find out if he was naturalized, I don't see any numbers in these census? And also what town in Italy he came from. I'd appreciate any help. Thank you.
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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby Squigy » 22 Oct 2010, 17:54

jcravi wrote:I am researching Louis Perillo born either Jan 1861 through 1863 in Italy (no town given). He immigrated anywhere from 1880 to 1882. His wife's name was Madeline or Magdelana. They settled down on 3rd Avenue and 40th in Brooklyn, NY, and he owned a Barbershop on 3rd Avenue and I believe 42nd Street. I found most of this information in the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census. I believe they were married in 1880 or 1890. In the 1900 Census the name is listed as Perali.

Does anyone know how I can find out if he was naturalized, I don't see any numbers in these census? And also what town in Italy he came from. I'd appreciate any help. Thank you.
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According to the 1920 census, he was an alien and came to the US in 1880. If he didn't naturalize after 40 years, my guess is he never did.

As for place of birth, 1880 immigration records probably won't state that. You might try getting his death certificate.
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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby jcravi » 22 Oct 2010, 18:02

Thank you for your advise. If Louis Perillo owned a barbershop in Brooklyn, NY would there be any records of the ownership? If so, would you happen to know where I would find it?

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Postby Squigy » 22 Oct 2010, 18:12

jcravi wrote:Thank you for your advise. If Louis Perillo owned a barbershop in Brooklyn, NY would there be any records of the ownership? If so, would you happen to know where I would find it?

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I'm not sure how it would work with a big city like NY, but in most towns, the local courthouse has deeds, and other land records that may help you find what you're looking for.
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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby jcravi » 22 Oct 2010, 18:45

I went back to the 1900 Census where Louis Perali b. 1863 was listed. He said that he immigrated in 1883 and that he's naturalized. There are some numbers listed by his name of 34-6 2C-1B also further along that line by occupation is has number os 4-2-a-0-0-3. Would you happened to know what that means?
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Postby Squigy » 22 Oct 2010, 19:11

jcravi wrote:I went back to the 1900 Census where Louis Perali b. 1863 was listed. He said that he immigrated in 1883 and that he's naturalized. There are some numbers listed by his name of 34-6 2C-1B also further along that line by occupation is has number os 4-2-a-0-0-3. Would you happened to know what that means?
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I don't know what the numbers mean. Are you sure these are the same men? The information doesn't quite match.
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Caserta: Maietta, Rossano, Tessitore, Negro, Peluso, Musone



Campobasso: D'Andrea, Barile



Catanzaro: Fiorelli/Fiorillo, Romito

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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby jcravi » 22 Oct 2010, 19:16

Yes, they are the same. My brother-in-law told me about his grandfather, Louis who owned a barbershop on 3rd avenue about 42nd street and he remembered the barbershop and lived in the neighborhood. Several people have told me the spelling may not alway match. But the family members are the same. Could they have something to do with a Registration Card?

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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby suanj » 22 Oct 2010, 19:28

Hi, I maybe this is the marriage record:
Piriello Luigi Dec 4 1890 #14898 (1890) Manhattan
Gentile Madaline Dec 4 1890 #14898 (1890) Manhattan



I know not if these are your ancestors, but is the only record that I found; in effects this Luigi Perillo( Piriello is a wrong transcription) married at Madeline Gentile in Manhattan, he was naturalized in :
U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about Luiggi Perillo
Name: Luiggi Perillo
Birth Place: Italy
Court District: New York
Date of Action: 20 Oct 1890
and he was a barber http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1494 ... zation.jpg

but is just a suggestion...
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Postby jcravi » 22 Oct 2010, 19:40

Yes it could be. Although some census said they were married in 1880. Thank you for looking it up.

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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby suanj » 22 Oct 2010, 19:48

in 1900 census the marriage year is 1890:
1900 United States Federal Census
about Louis Perali Name: Louis Perali
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 8, Kings, New York
Age: 37
Birth Date: Jan 1863
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1883
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Magdelana Perali
Marriage Year: 1890
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Perali 37
Magdelana Perali 27
Mary Perali 5
James Perali 3
Morris Salino 22


and it could be right, because they have only 2 children born after the 1890 ....
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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby suanj » 22 Oct 2010, 19:54

also he in 1900 census is NA(naturalized) and because I found U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about Luiggi Perillo
Name: Luiggi Perillo
Birth Place: Italy
Court District: New York
Date of Action: 20 Oct 1890

and he was a barber
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1494 ... zation.jpg
maybe is the right person..
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Re: Naturalized and/or what town they came from?

Postby jcravi » 22 Oct 2010, 20:07

Oh, maybe it is. Thanks for you help.

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