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Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 27 Oct 2010, 17:39

Need info regarding Gennaro Russo. Hopefully a census report will clear up a controversy regading his name. One research says his name is Giocondo. His parents were Tomasso Russo and Lucia Filomena Cunti. His brother was my grandfather Antonio Angelo Russo. Gennaro? lived on Taylor Street in New Castle, Pa. He died on December 26, 1945. There is also some question about his siblings. He supposedly had a sister named Archangeli that married and moved to Rochester, Pa. I have no further info regarding her, other than what my late Aunt told me. I have not been able to uncover any info from New Castle database regarding is marriage or death. Perhaps an census report might help. I am 79 years old and have been trying to finalize my research. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you for this wonderful website.

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Marcello_DAleo » 27 Oct 2010, 18:19

Gennaro "George" Ross/Russo
Birth 15 April 1878 in Baia Latina Italy
Death 26 Dec 1945 in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
Parents and siblings Antonio Ross/Russo (-) Victoria (-)

Spouse & Children

Clotilde Strizzi (1882-1963)
Living Ross (-)
Victor Ross (1903-)
Christine Ross (1904-1993)
Helen Ross (1913-2004)

1878 15 Apr Birth Baia Latina Italy
1899 1 Jun Age: 21 Marriage to Clotilde Strizzi New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
1945 26 Dec Age: 67 Death New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 27 Oct 2010, 18:31

I guess that supports the fact that Gennaro was not the name of my grandfather's brother. My grandfather's father's name was Tomasso not Antonio. Thank you for your response. Now I wonder if his brothers name was Andrea? I'll have to see what I can find out. Perhaps Gennaro was a cousin of my grandfather. He came from Baia e Latina also.

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby suanj » 28 Oct 2010, 14:56

Marcello_DAleo wrote:Gennaro "George" Ross/Russo
Birth 15 April 1878 in Baia Latina Italy
Death 26 Dec 1945 in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
Parents and siblings Antonio Ross/Russo (-) Victoria (-)

Spouse & Children

Clotilde Strizzi (1882-1963)
Living Ross (-)
Victor Ross (1903-)
Christine Ross (1904-1993)
Helen Ross (1913-2004)

1878 15 Apr Birth Baia Latina Italy
1899 1 Jun Age: 21 Marriage to Clotilde Strizzi New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
1945 26 Dec Age: 67 Death New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA

Hi Marcello, in effects, after a search, it is the only Gennaro/George Russo died in New Castle, Lawrence, PA in the 26 dec 1945..
I found that Gennaro, italian first name, emigrated the first time in 1893, but I no found this trip; instead I found the second trip, and he was naturalized and coming from Baia Latina, joining at wife Clotilde Strizzi in New Castle:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018

This is the only Gennaro/George living in New Castle; by WWII draft registration card, the birthdate is a bit different:
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about George Russo
Name: George Russo
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1877
Birth Place:
Residence: Lawrence, Pennsylvania
Roll: WW2_2139685

I found the 1930 Census:
1930 United States Federal Census
about George Ross
Name: George Ross
Home in 1930: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
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Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Clothilda Ross
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Ross 52 italian imm. 1895 Naturalized
Clothilda Ross 47 italian imm. 1897 Naturalized
Victor Ross 27 born in PA
Helen Ross 16 born in PA
Paul Lombardo 26 son in law of George
Christiane Lombardo 25 daughter of George born in PA
Paul Lombardo 2 6/12 grandson ditto
James Occhibove 26 boarder


the discrepancies having no importance, in the database are usual this errors; because sure this Gennaro/George Russo is the same that you found the death record...
more discrepancies in 1920 census abt the ages especially( Clotilde age!) and immigration years:

1920 United States Federal Census
about George Ross
Name: George Ross
Home in 1920: New Castle Ward 5, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Clotilde Ross
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1908
[1909]
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Ross 43
Clotilde Ross 57
Harry Ross 19
Vito Ross 17 ( aka Victor)
Christina Ross 15
Helen Ross 6


the spouses was naturalized in 1912....
I cannot find other Gennaro/George, just this records... I understand that the parent's names on the death records not matching, but it is also possible that the informant no knew abt that...
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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby suanj » 28 Oct 2010, 15:08

on ancestry.com, a genealogic tree abt Gennaro Russo:
Gennaro "George" Ross/Russo
Birth 15 April 1878
in Baia Latina Italy
Death 26 Dec 1945
in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA

wife:
Clotilde Strizzi
Birth 11 May 1882
in Roccaraso, Abruzzo, Italy
Death 16 April 1963
in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA

a daughter:
Christine Ross
Birth 22 March 1904
in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 7 Aug 1993
in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
married at: Paul Anthony Lombardo 1903 – 1970

other daughter:
Helen Ross
Birth 24 May 1913
in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 20 June 2004
in New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA

a son:
Name: Victor Ross
Birth: 18 Sep 1902
Death: Jul 1980 - New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Civil: Pennsylvania

this children names maybe can remember something to you?
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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 28 Oct 2010, 18:20

Thank You for the information. I am familiar with that lineage in the Russo Tree. It is a distant relative of my grandfather. My Grandfather had a brother that lived across the street from him on Taylor Street in New Castle, Pa. One researcher gave me the name Giocondo as his brother. I am not familiar with that name. It doesnt seem to fit with the information that I have.
His name may have been Andrea (Andrew) Russo/Ross. And I was told he had a sister named Archangeli. With the information you provided me, I am sure that Gennaro was not his brother.

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Postby suanj » 28 Oct 2010, 20:49

better so...
however if I understand well you are no sure abt the first name: Gennaro or Giocondo or Andrea...
just a perplexity: you said that Gennaro or Giocondo or Andrea died on December 26, 1945... seeming that the only Russo died in New Castle in this date was abt the Gennaro/George ... but you are sure that is not your Angelo Antonio's brother... the problem is that you have no infos, just the surname; no birthyear.... no immigration year... no wife name as a well children names... just a address in New Castle but we know not in what certain period of time...
however searching by Andy/Andrew/Andrea first name, Russo surname in New Castle, 1930 census:

It are a 2 Andy/Andrew Russo

the first:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Andy Russo Name: Andy Russo
Home in 1930: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
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Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

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Household Members: Name Age
Andy Russo 55
James Russo 23
Mike Russo 18
Albert Russo 15
Margaret Russo 13

residence in 1930: 114 Hayne St
in same street also Joseph Russo 50 aged with wife Rosina

the second:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Andy Russo Name: Andy Russo
Home in 1930: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
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Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Filomena Russo
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

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Household Members: Name Age
Andy Russo 56
Filomena Russo 50
Rose Russo 19
Margaret Russo 17
Alfred Russo 13
William Russo 23
Edith Russo 18
residence: 208 Cedar Street
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and 1 Andrea Russo:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Andrea Russo Name: Andrea Russo
Home in 1930: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
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Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Maria C Russo
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
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Household Members: Name Age
Andrea Russo 42
Maria C Russo 42
Michael Russo 7

residence: 418 Uber Street
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if you can give us more infos abt Angelo Antonio brother, we can help better...
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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 28 Oct 2010, 21:30

Father: Tomasso Russo birth: 10 Mar 1843
Mother: Filomena Lucia Cunti birth: 30 Sep 1869
Children:
Antonio Angelo birth: 22 Jul 1873
Archangeli (daughter - Antonio's sister)
Andea?/Giocondo? (Antonio's brother)
I know Andrea?/Giocondo? had a son Thomas Ross who was a shoemaker. I can provide the names of Tomasso's parents if necessary. I am hoping that the census will shed some light on his brother's name. His brother lived on Taylor Street in New Castle, Lawrence County, Pennsylvania. The death date of 26 Dec 1945 is that date I have for Gennaro. Since I dont know what my grandfathers brothers name is I also dont know when he died.
Thank you for you interest.

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby suanj » 29 Oct 2010, 08:56

it are a Andy Ross( Russo) in 1910 census:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Audy Ross Name: Audy Ross
[Andy Ross]
Age in 1910: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary Ross
Home in 1910: New Castle Ward 8, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1893
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Household Members: Name Age
Audy Ross 41
Mary Ross 40
Tom Ross 14
Elmore Ross 12
Mary Ross 9
Louie Ross 6
Steve Conti 37 boarder
Dominick Sandora 34 boarder

residence in 1910: 73 Center st
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3184/andyross1910.jpg


the same family in 1920:
1920 United States Federal Census
about Andrew Ross Name: Andrew Ross
Home in 1920: New Castle Ward 4, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary Ross
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1893
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Ross 49
Mary Ross 49
Mary F Ross 15
Lewis Ross 12
Jesse Ross 6
James Lavella 24
Ellanore Lavella 21 ( nee Russo)
Stanley Lavella 0
[2/12]

Address: 303 Taylor street!
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5750 ... so1920.jpg
most probably Thomas was already married…

in effects Thomas Ross in 1930 census working in shoe repairing:

1930 United States Federal Census about Thomas A Ross
Name: Thomas A Ross
Home in 1930: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
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Age: 34

Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Clara Ross
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Thomas A Ross
34
Clara Ross
29
Andrew Ross
8
Thomas Ross
5


http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8411 ... ss1930.jpg
The first son have grandfather first name..

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 29 Oct 2010, 13:25

YES!!!! This is the family and it confirms the name of his brother. ther was some question among my family as to whether his name was Andrea or Gennaro. You have solved the mystery for me. I am familiar with all of the children and grandchildren of Andrew. I Thank You So Much for all your work. It helps to prove that the research information that I received is not correct. Thank You Very Much!!!!
The earliest known ancestor of My grandfather was Andrea Russo (abt. 1800) who married Teresa DeSimone (abt. 1800). Their only know child was Tomasso Russo (abt 1843) who married Lucia Filomena Cunti. They all lived in Baia e Latina.
Their children were:
Andrea (thanks to your research)
Antonio Angelo
Archangeli??
I have no further information on the Russo Ancestry This is the information I had originally acquired from my late Uncle.
"Russo Tommaso fu Andrea e fu DeSimone Teresa
nato a Baia e Latina il giorno 9 marzo 1843
e
Cunti Filomena Lucia de Francesco e Angela
DePasquale nata a Baia e Latina il 26.3.1847

I suddetti contrassero matrimonie il data 30.9.1869"

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby suanj » 29 Oct 2010, 13:45

thanks for your reply... and this must be the 1930 census, same address:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Andrew Ross
Name: Andrew Ross
Home in 1930: New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania
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Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ross

Race: White
Occupation:

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Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Ross 61
Mary Ross 6 ( wife, age: 60 no 6)
Jessie Ross 18 ( daughter)
Lenis Ross 26 ( Lewis, son)
Helen Ross 20 daughter in law
Louis Ross 2 6/12 grandson

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby suanj » 29 Oct 2010, 14:02

again me, abt the first son of Andrea Russo/Andrew or Andy Ross:
Thomas Ross:
Name: Thomas Ross
Birth: 24 Sep 1896
Death: Oct 1983 - New Castle, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Civil: Pennsylvania


and in New Castle Public Library's Marriage/Obituary Database is available the obituary:

id 95883
Last Name Ross
First Name Thomas
Spouse Clara Giancola
Parent
Newspaper NCN
Page 3
Date of Marriage Announcement
Date of Death Announcement 10-26-1983
http://75.144.2.26/obit2/index.php?tabl ... e_search=1
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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 30 Oct 2010, 00:54

Thanks Again. I noticed that in all the census reports the surname recorded was Ross, however, the in the death record the surname is Russo. According to NCN his death date was 6/28/1937. Thank you for opening up another avenue to pursue in search of my ancestry. I will continue to try to find out more about Andrew's grandfather Andrea Russo in Baia e Latina. The search becomes confusing because of the repitition of the same names in each generation. Thank you for all that you have done for me.

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby suanj » 30 Oct 2010, 04:00

Yes me too found the death record of Andrew Russo in 1937.. Ross is the anglicized version of italian Russo surname...

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Re: Gennar Russo ?

Postby Topper » 30 Oct 2010, 09:37

Sono profondamente grato per tutte le informazioni che mi avete fornito. Vi ringrazio molto per tutto il lavoro che avete fatto in mio favore.
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