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Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby mykiavelli » 05 Nov 2010, 23:44

Hello, I am researching the Manfredi surname. My surname is Fredy and have been told and have found clues to the origin being Manfredi. My research leads me to a Giuseppe Manfredi (b.1850's) whom had a son Mose S (Manfredi) Fredy (b.1882-d.1955) whom married Lottie E ____ (b.1893-d.1978), Mose & Lottie's son Augustine is my grandfather. To the best of my knowledge I have traced the family down to the Torre del Lago / Viareggio area. I also know there is a wonderful history of Giulia Manfredi & Pucinni in this area.

Any help would be wonderful!!
Thank you for your time!

-Mike Fredy

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Re: Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby pink67 » 26 Dec 2010, 21:26

Mike,

have you seen these records from the site Ancestry.com?


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Moses Frady
Name: Moses Frady
County: San Bernardino
State: California
Birthplace: Brazil - Rio De Janeiro
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1887
Race: Malayan
FHL Roll Number: 1531282
DraftBoard: 1

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1920 United States Federal Census
about Moses Frady
Name: Moses Frady
Home in 1920: San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: South America[Sa]
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Lottie E Frady
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy

Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1903[1900]
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Moses Frady 34
Lottie E Frady 25
Eugene T Frady 0
[7/12]

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1930 United States Federal Census
about Mose S Fredy
Name: Mose S Fredy
Home in 1930: San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California
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Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Sottie E Fredy
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mose S Fredy 48 head
Sottie E Fredy 34
Eugene Fredy 11 wife
Augustine Fredy 6 son
Mose S Fredy 4 11/12 son
Helen S Fredy 1 7/12 daughter

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Re: Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby pink67 » 26 Dec 2010, 22:32

The correct italian name of Moses was Samuele Manfredi:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974
about Samuelle MA Nfredi
Name: Samuelle MA Nfredi[Mose Fredy]
State: California
Court Type: Superior Court
Court Location: San Diego, California
Naturalization Record Type: Certificate of Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 4584
Roll Description: (Roll 19) Lists of Citizenship Petitions Granted 1-90; 1929-1936
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Naturalization Records in the Superior Court of San Diego, California, 1883-1958
Archive Series: M1613
Archive Roll: 19

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So, I believe this is Samuele's first arrival on 1902:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012

the naturalization mark on his line:

23-7414 - 505 - 10/21/35

23 is the INS naturalization Office of :

23 Los Angeles, CA AZ, Southern CA, Clark and Lincoln Co. NV

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Re: Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby pink67 » 26 Dec 2010, 22:37

Mose changed his name, this is an official document of the naturalization process:

U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about Mose Fredy
Name: Mose Fredy
[Samuele Manfredi]

Court District: California
Date of Action: 20 Mar 1936


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Re: Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby mykiavelli » 27 Dec 2010, 07:27

Laura - First off, thank you so much.
Secondly, no I have not seen these FULL records, just the non-paid-site information. I think tomorrow I will sign up for a month, see what I can get. This is very interesting info because this is the first I've heard of his birthplace was Rio De Janeiro. Iv'e seen it come up before, but have always disregarded it. Do you have any connection to this line? Have any idea why Italians would be in Brazil? Thanks again!!
Mike

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Re: Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby pink67 » 27 Dec 2010, 07:58

You're welcome Mike....
Brazil was one of the places where Italian people did emigrate, especially from the north of Italy. I belive it's possible that Samuele's parents did emigrate in Brazil and he was born there... it's also possible that the all family went back to Italy considering that at his 1902 arrival Samuele was coming from Torre del Lago...

Do you have Mose Fredy's death certificate? usually place of birth and parent's names are present on the death certificates...
Or, having now the correct details for his naturalization papers you may consider to ask for them, I'm sure they must contains other important clues for your research...

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Mose Fredy
Name: Mose Fredy
Social Security #:
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1882
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 30 Jan 1955
Death Place: Los Angeles

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Re: Need help finding Manfredi's in Torre del Lago

Postby mykiavelli » 27 Dec 2010, 08:08

Laura
My brother has copies of Mose & his sister Virginia's Italian marriage and death records I believe is how he described them, even though they both died in California. At any rate they show both born to the same mother and father in either Torre de Lago or Viarregio. Thanks again!! I will drop you a line to let you know what I dig up.
Mike


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