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Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby ascione_m » 06 Nov 2010, 09:30

Hello,

I am trying to search my maternal grandfather's line. I do not have a great deal of information, unfortunately.

To the best of my searching/knowledge, my grandfather, Rocco Anthony Gorassi was born in Canada, to Angelo Gorassi and Giovanna Maria Cerigliana/Cerigliani/Ciriliani/Ceriglianora, July 5, 1911. His siblings were Concetta (b 1902?), Maria (b 1906), Louis (b 1907?), Antonio (b 1913) and Lucy (b 1915).

Angelo is born sometime about 1868, married in Canada around 1900, died in Canada, 1916. Antonio had a brother, Antonio born 1866?, who did the traditional thing and married Giovanna Maria around 1918. There may have been another brother, possibly Gennaro? Angelo, Antonio and Gennaro are supposedly all sons of Lorenzo Gorassi and Concetta (surname unknown).

Giovanna Maria was born around 1880 in Laurenzana, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy. She died August 1 1965 in Toronto Ontario Canada. Her parents' names are Rocco Cerigliana/Cerigliani/Ceriliani/Ceriglianora and Mary Maetocchia?

My real trouble is, i cannot find any information at all on the Gorassi surname... it seems to almost to not exist any more. I am wondering if it is a corruption of Grossi or Grassi? I have even seen Gorase.

Any help would be great thanks
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby ascione_m » 06 Nov 2010, 10:34

I just thought of this...

I am sorry, but I do not have a region or city of birth for Angelo, Antonio, Gennaro or Lorenzo Gorassi... other than it is somewhere in Italy to the best of my knowledge...

I know that makes it more difficult, but I do not have very much on this side of my family
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby pink67 » 06 Nov 2010, 15:38

Giovanna Maria was born around 1880 in Laurenzana, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy. She died August 1 1965 in Toronto Ontario Canada. Her parents' names are Rocco Cerigliana/Cerigliani/Ceriliani/Ceriglianora and Mary Maetocchia?


HI Mark and welcome to the forum....

I think that Giovanna Maria correct maiden name was Cirigliano, she was born on 17 april 1879 in Laurenzana and was the daughter of Cirigliano Rocco Vincenzo and Martoccia Donata Maria

from the site Ancestry.com here is the birth act image:
http://postimage.org/image/2zj3or6hw/

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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby pink67 » 06 Nov 2010, 15:45

:? It's just my thought but I noticed that in Laurenzana the lastname Galasso is present... maybe Gorassi was a mispelling?

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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby pink67 » 06 Nov 2010, 16:02

Don't know if you already have this document, in the doubt I'll point it to you:

29 december 1899:

arrival manifest to NYC for Maria Giovanna Cirigliano, female, age 19, single from Laurenzana to Toronto-Canada, to join her sister Cirigliano .

image here:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0022

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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 06 Nov 2010, 16:16

Hi

here the arrival in New York, USA of Angelo Gorassi and Gennaro brother:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Angelo Gorassi
Name: Angelo Gorassi
Arrival Date: 31 May 1893
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 25

Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Chateau Lafite

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2170/gorassi1893.jpg

here the birth of the daughter Mary:
Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1911
about Mary Gorassi
Name: Mary Gorassi
Date of Birth: 7 Dec 1906
Gender: Female
Birth County: York
Father's name: Angelo Gorassi
Mother's name: Maria Giovanna Cirigliano
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS933_45
the marriage:

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Vincent Dinorcia
Name: Vincent Dinorcia
Birth Place: Naples; Italy
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Father Name: Joseph Dinorcia
Mother Name: Loretta Rotundi
Spouse Name: Maria Gorassi
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse Birth Place: Toronto; Ont
Spouse Father Name: Angelo Gorassi
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Cirigliani
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1926
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_750


the daughter Concetta marriage record:
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Concetta Gorassi
Name: Concetta Gorassi
Birth Place: Toronto
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Father Name: Angelo
Mother Name: Maria G Creigham
Spouse Name: Corinne Lattarulo
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place: Pisticci Italy
Spouse Father Name: Emidio
Spouse Mother Name: pasqua veggiani
Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1923
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_636

Angelo death:
Name: Angelo Gorassi
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 22 Nov 1916
Estimated Death Year:
Death Age: 48 years
Death Place: Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Birth Date: 1868
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Birthplace: Italy
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Race (Expanded):
Race (Standardized):
Ethnicity:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Father's Name: Lewis Gorassi
Father's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Name: Congettie Gorassi
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Film Number: 1862179
Digital Folder Number: 4170245
Image Number: 271
Reference Number: p261 #5872 cn6866
Collection: Ontario Deaths, 1869-1947

so son of Luigi Gorassi and Concetta... unknown maiden name


however by marriage of Giovanna Maria Cirigliano with Antonio Gorassi, he also widower, we know that he was born in Rocca daspide, Salerno province, IT
and the witness was Raffaele Gorassi, maybe another brother:
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Antonio Gorassi
Name: Antonio Gorassi
Birth Place: Roua D'ffspuda Palerno Staly
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Father Name: Luig Concetta Gorassi
Mother Name: Gorassi Gorassi
Spouse Name: Maria Cerigliana
Spouse's Age: 38
Spouse Birth Place: Laurenzana Poknzana Staly
Spouse Father Name: Rous Maria Cerigliana
Spouse Mother Name: Martoca Cerigliana
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1918
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3549 ... rriage.jpg
the right surname spelling is GORRASI and not GORASSI

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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 06 Nov 2010, 16:17

Gennaro GORRASI death:
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1936 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
about Genaro Gorrasi
Name: Genaro Gorrasi
Death Date: 27 Apr 1925
Death Location: York
Age: 66
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Birth Location: Italy
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS935_321
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 06 Nov 2010, 16:19

Angelo GORRASI marriage:
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1926
about Angelo Gorrasi
Name: Angelo Gorrasi
Birth Place: Italy
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Father Name: Louis Gorrasi Mother Name: Concetta Gorrasi
Spouse Name: Maria Ciriglianora
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse Birth Place: Italy
Spouse Father Name: Rocco Ciriglianora
Spouse Mother Name: Mary Maetocchus
Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1900
Marriage Location: York
Marriage County: York
Archives of Ontario Microfilm: MS932_100
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 06 Nov 2010, 16:22

Raffaele Gorrasi arrival:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Raffaele Gorrasi
Name: Raffaele Gorrasi
Arrival Date: 7 May 1907
Birth Year: abt 1878
Birth Location Other: rocedarpid
(Roccadaspide)
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Citta Di Torino

joining at Antonio brother in Toronto, Canada
second trip:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Roffaele Gorrasi Name: Roffaele Gorrasi
Arrival Date: 5 Jun 1913
Birth Year: abt 1877
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: roccadatpide
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Europa

wife Rosa in Roccadaspide, joining at brother Angelo in Toronto
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Nov 2010, 16:26

Hi Mark :-)

For reference (if you already have this manifest)

Angelo Gorassi arriving May 1893, 28 (?)
Traveling with Gennaro Gorassi, 35.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\IMAGES\\M237-0610\\M237-06100302.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=103334120478&name=Angelo%26nbsp%3BGorassi&doa=May+31%2C+1893&port=Naples&line=0591

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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 06 Nov 2010, 16:31

Angelo GORRASI had also a sister, Gabriela GORRASI, married at Ricco; she made some trip, and in this second trip, with children: Anna and Angelo RICCO, left the father Luigi in Roccadaspide, joining at husband Luigi Ricco in Toronto, Canada:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Gabriela Gorrasi Name: Gabriela Gorrasi
Arrival Date: 23 Mar 1922
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: roccadaspide
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colombo

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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 06 Nov 2010, 16:42

no problem Tessa!
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby ascione_m » 08 Nov 2010, 07:22

Thank you all so much, that is some great info, and very helpful

As I said, my mother knew of Angelo, and Antonio. Actually, she always thought with her father being Rocco Anthony, and his brother being Antonio, that Antonio was the natural father, but I had found the records of Giovanna Maria marrying Angelo earlier, then Angelo's death record, then Antonio's marriage. I also know from my mother's memory about Connie's (though her husband's correct name is Cosimo Lattrulo). And Maria's marriage to Vincenzo (called Jimmy) Dinorcia. Connie died at about age 50, and after Vincenzo died, Cosimo married Maria.

My mother knew of a possible 3rd brother, but not for certain, and certainly not a 4th or of a sister. She was quite shocked when I mentioned it to her today.

Thank you also for the info on Roccadaspide. My mother always thought both her parents originated in Abbruzzo. Also of course, there has always been a question about the Gorassi spelling, though as I said, many people thought it had to be Grassi or Grossi.
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Re: Gorassi surname/genealogy

Postby suanj » 08 Nov 2010, 11:01

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