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Lucia Family

Postby ChrisLucia » 07 Nov 2010, 19:48

Hello, my surname is Lucia. My ancestors left out of the port in Naples but I believe they were from Castelfranco. Was the surname always Lucia or was the De dropped from it as in it used to be De Lucia? I am wondering if Lucia is a real italian surname and any information on the surname? thank you :D

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Re: Lucia Family

Postby suanj » 07 Nov 2010, 19:56

Hi, in Italy the Lucia surname is popular, and also popular is De Lucia... it exist also the version Di Lucia; so your ancestor surname; in Castelfranco in Miscano town, full name town, in Benevento province) exist Lucia surname only; no the other versions..
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby oilman19 » 07 Nov 2010, 21:09

I have indexed many de Lucia's in Santa Maria Capua Vetere. Some went to U.S. I know Connecticut was 1 destination.
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby ChrisLucia » 07 Nov 2010, 21:22

oilman19 wrote:I have indexed many de Lucia's in Santa Maria Capua Vetere. Some went to U.S. I know Connecticut was 1 destination.
Any interest?


my ancestors went to bridgeport, CT. and i currently live in CT.

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Re: Lucia Family

Postby ChrisLucia » 07 Nov 2010, 21:23

suanj wrote:Hi, in Italy the Lucia surname is popular, and also popular is De Lucia... it exist also the version Di Lucia; so your ancestor surname; in Castelfranco in Miscano town, full name town, in Benevento province) exist Lucia surname only; no the other versions..
all the best,
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So they are seperate surnames and in castelfranco only lucia exists? thank you

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Re: Lucia Family

Postby oilman19 » 07 Nov 2010, 21:34

I believe Giuseppe de Lucia of Salvatore (married to Teresa Perrotta) went to CT.
I believe Angela Rosa de Lucia of Salvatore (married to Giuseppe Perrotta) came to CT.
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby ChrisLucia » 07 Nov 2010, 21:49

oilman19 wrote:I believe Giuseppe de Lucia of Salvatore (married to Teresa Perrotta) went to CT.
I believe Angela Rosa de Lucia of Salvatore (married to Giuseppe Perrotta) came to CT.
Any relationships?


no relationships there. im 15 years old. My grandpa (Joseph D. Lucia II) came to CT as a child with his father, Philip J. Lucia. Philip was married to Mary but i don't know her maiden name. Because my grandpa is the Joseph Lucia the second and his dad was philip, i am assuming that his grandfather (my great-great grandfather) was joseph/guiseppe D. Lucia the first?

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Re: Lucia Family

Postby oilman19 » 07 Nov 2010, 22:59

Hi Chris

I'm sorry I failed to welcome you to the forum. :)

The wonderful people on this forum can be very helpful to you when you get stuck.

I would recommend you trace your ancestors in U.S. as far as you can with family lore, census reports, etc. Eventually, you will wish to trace your roots back to Italy (try Ellisisland.org). You will be amazed at the info that is available to you on the web. If you need any assistance, we are here to help you.

I wish you well in your new adventure. You picked the best forum on the web for Italian Genealogy.
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby ChrisLucia » 08 Nov 2010, 04:00

oilman19 wrote:Hi Chris

I'm sorry I failed to welcome you to the forum. :)

The wonderful people on this forum can be very helpful to you when you get stuck.

I would recommend you trace your ancestors in U.S. as far as you can with family lore, census reports, etc. Eventually, you will wish to trace your roots back to Italy (try Ellisisland.org). You will be amazed at the info that is available to you on the web. If you need any assistance, we are here to help you.

I wish you well in your new adventure. You picked the best forum on the web for Italian Genealogy.


thank you and yes this has been very helpful already! My great grandfather came here his name was Philip J Lucia. I can't find him in the ellis island website though. He changed his name to Lucy because he had a store and he wanted it to be more american. I am changing my surname back to Lucia. I can't find his father though :(

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ChrisLucia wrote:
suanj wrote:Hi, in Italy the Lucia surname is popular, and also popular is De Lucia... it exist also the version Di Lucia; so your ancestor surname; in Castelfranco in Miscano town, full name town, in Benevento province) exist Lucia surname only; no the other versions..
all the best,
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So they are seperate surnames and in castelfranco only lucia exists? thank you

yes:
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... in+miscano
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Postby suanj » 10 Nov 2010, 10:58

crhris, I read you pm, and I wish post here what I found;
Philip Lucy aka Filippo Lucia, your ancestor, was the son of Giuseppe Lucia(born abt 1866); they came both in the 1907:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Filippo Lucia
Name: Filippo Lucia
Arrival Date: 22 Mar 1907
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth Location Other: castolfranco
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race¬/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Konigin Luise
Search Ship Database: Search the Konigin Luise in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4656 ... ip1907.jpg

here the 1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census about Joseph Lucy
Name: Joseph Lucy
Home in 1920: Bridgeport Ward 9, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Genniva Lucy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1907
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lucy-head
54
Genniva Lucy-wife( maybe the italian first name could be Giovina)
48
Mary Lucy-daughter
22
Philliph Lucy -son
26
Mary Lucy-daughter in law
20
Genniva Lucy-grandaughter
4
[4 9/12]
Carmel Lucy-ditto
2
[2 2/12]
Joseph Lucy-grandson
0
[4/12]

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the 1930 censuses:

1930 United States Federal Census about Joseph Lucia
Name: Joseph Lucia
Home in 1930: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
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Age: 65

Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Genevieve Lucia
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lucia
65
Genevieve Lucia
62
Patsy Lucia
23


1930 United States Federal Census about Phillip Lucia
Name: Phillip Lucia
Home in 1930: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
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Age: 37

Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Lucia
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
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Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Lucia
37
Mary Lucia
30
Genevieve Lucia
13
Mildred Lucia
12
Joseph Lucia
10
Elizabeth Lucia
7
Evelyn Lucia
4
neighbor Michael Lucia, maybe brother of Philip; Genevieve and the daughter Mary as a well this Michael Lucia are immigrated in 1913:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6703/1930lucia.jpg
In effect Michael( Michele) was another brother of Philip/Filippo Lucia/Lucy;
they arrived in 1913:
pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030
pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030
the name of Genevieve was Giovina D'ONOFRIO, married at Lucia; the first daughter was Rosa, but on the censuses she appeared Mary; also Michael/Michele and Patsy/Pasquale was born in Castelfranco in Miscano( Benevento province); Genevieve/Giovina left the father Giovanni in Castelfranco in Miscano; the family joining at Giuseppe Lucia in Bridgeport, CT
by that you can be very sure that your ancestor, Philip was the son of Giuseppe Lucia and Giovina D'Onofrio, all of Castelfranco in Miscano; the siblings was: Michele/Michael, Mary/Rosa, Pasquale/Patsy; I know not if it was also some other sibling, but this I found ....
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the deaths of Philip:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001 about Philip Lucy
Name: Philip Lucy
Father's Surname: Lucia
Death Date: 25 Mar 1987
Death Place: Bridgeport, Connecticut
Age: 94 Years
Birth Place: Italy
Birth Date: 26 Nov 1892
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Mary
State File #: 04596
Occupation: RETIRED GROCER
Industry: LUCYS SUPERMARKET
Residence : Bridgeport, Connecticut
Address: 229 Kensington Pl 06610
Race: White


the father:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001 about Josep Lucia
Name: Josep Lucia
Death Date: 18 Jul 1955
Death Place: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 89 Years
Birth Date: abt 1866
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Gene
State File #: 10918
Residence : Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Race: White

the mother:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001
about Genev Lucia Name: Genev Lucia
Death Date: 10 Dec 1965
Death Place: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 96 Years
Birth Date: abt 1869
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Jose
State File #: 23312
Residence : Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Gender: Female
Race: White

the brother:
Name: Michael Lucia
Birth: 5 Sep 1903
Death: Apr 1980 - Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States of America
Civil: Connecticut

the other brother:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001
about Pasquale P Lucia Name: Pasquale P Lucia
Father's Surname: Lucia
Death Date: 20 Dec 1985
Death Place: Bridgeport, Connecticut
Age: 80 Years
Birth Place: Italy
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1905
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Edith
State File #: 25896
Occupation: RETIRED UPHOLSTERY
Industry: SELF EMPLOYED
Residence : Stratford, Connecticut
Address: 68 Kenwood Av 06430
Race: White

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I read on a genealogic tree on ancestry.com that the birthplace was Castelfranco in Arezzo province; that is wrong;
the family coming from Castelfranco in Miscano, in Benevento province, Campania region, IT
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby oilman19 » 10 Nov 2010, 11:43

WOW, Raffaela, you have been busy.

Nice find :)
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby suanj » 10 Nov 2010, 14:59

Thank you Jim!
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Re: Lucia Family

Postby ChrisLucia » 11 Nov 2010, 00:06

suanj wrote:crhris, I read you pm, and I wish post here what I found;
Philip Lucy aka Filippo Lucia, your ancestor, was the son of Giuseppe Lucia(born abt 1866); they came both in the 1907:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Filippo Lucia
Name: Filippo Lucia
Arrival Date: 22 Mar 1907
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth Location Other: castolfranco
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race¬/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Konigin Luise
Search Ship Database: Search the Konigin Luise in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4656 ... ip1907.jpg

here the 1920 census:
1920 United States Federal Census about Joseph Lucy
Name: Joseph Lucy
Home in 1920: Bridgeport Ward 9, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Genniva Lucy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1907
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lucy-head
54
Genniva Lucy-wife( maybe the italian first name could be Giovina)
48
Mary Lucy-daughter
22
Philliph Lucy -son
26
Mary Lucy-daughter in law
20
Genniva Lucy-grandaughter
4
[4 9/12]
Carmel Lucy-ditto
2
[2 2/12]
Joseph Lucy-grandson
0
[4/12]

-------------
the 1930 censuses:

1930 United States Federal Census about Joseph Lucia
Name: Joseph Lucia
Home in 1930: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
View Map

Age: 65

Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Genevieve Lucia
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
View image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Lucia
65
Genevieve Lucia
62
Patsy Lucia
23


1930 United States Federal Census about Phillip Lucia
Name: Phillip Lucia
Home in 1930: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
View Map

Age: 37

Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Lucia
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
View image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Phillip Lucia
37
Mary Lucia
30
Genevieve Lucia
13
Mildred Lucia
12
Joseph Lucia
10
Elizabeth Lucia
7
Evelyn Lucia
4
neighbor Michael Lucia, maybe brother of Philip; Genevieve and the daughter Mary as a well this Michael Lucia are immigrated in 1913:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6703/1930lucia.jpg
In effect Michael( Michele) was another brother of Philip/Filippo Lucia/Lucy;
they arrived in 1913:
pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030
pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030
the name of Genevieve was Giovina ONOFRIO, married at Lucia; the first daughter was Rosa, but on the censuses she appeared Mary; also Michael/Michele and Patsy/Pasquale was born in Castelfranco in Miscano( Benevento province); Genevieve/Giovina left the father Giovanni in Castelfranco in Miscano; the family joining at Giuseppe Lucia in Bridgeport, CT
by that you can be very sure that your ancestor, Philip was the son of Giuseppe Lucia and Giovina Onofrio, all of Castelfranco in Miscano; the siblings was: Michele/Michael, Mary/Rosa, Pasquale/Patsy; I know not if it was also some other sibling, but this I found ....
------------------
the deaths of Philip:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001 about Philip Lucy
Name: Philip Lucy
Father's Surname: Lucia
Death Date: 25 Mar 1987
Death Place: Bridgeport, Connecticut
Age: 94 Years
Birth Place: Italy
Birth Date: 26 Nov 1892
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Mary
State File #: 04596
Occupation: RETIRED GROCER
Industry: LUCYS SUPERMARKET
Residence : Bridgeport, Connecticut
Address: 229 Kensington Pl 06610
Race: White


the father:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001 about Josep Lucia
Name: Josep Lucia
Death Date: 18 Jul 1955
Death Place: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 89 Years
Birth Date: abt 1866
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Gene
State File #: 10918
Residence : Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Gender: Male
Race: White

the mother:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001
about Genev Lucia Name: Genev Lucia
Death Date: 10 Dec 1965
Death Place: Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Age: 96 Years
Birth Date: abt 1869
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse: Jose
State File #: 23312
Residence : Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut
Gender: Female
Race: White

the brother:
Name: Michael Lucia
Birth: 5 Sep 1903
Death: Apr 1980 - Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States of America
Civil: Connecticut

the other brother:
Connecticut Death Index, 1949-2001
about Pasquale P Lucia Name: Pasquale P Lucia
Father's Surname: Lucia
Death Date: 20 Dec 1985
Death Place: Bridgeport, Connecticut
Age: 80 Years
Birth Place: Italy
Birth Date: 9 Sep 1905
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Edith
State File #: 25896
Occupation: RETIRED UPHOLSTERY
Industry: SELF EMPLOYED
Residence : Stratford, Connecticut
Address: 68 Kenwood Av 06430
Race: White

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I read on a genealogic tree on <a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-3166187-10456885" TARGET="_blank">Ancestry.com</a> that the birthplace was Castelfranco in Arezzo province; that is wrong;
the family coming from Castelfranco in Miscano, in Benevento province, Campania region, IT
all the best,
suanj


WOW! this has helped me so much! this is what i needed and this was the missing link in my research! this is so great! thank you so much! is it possible to find Giuseppe Lucia's father too or is that going too far back? sorry if im being a pain!
Thank you!!!!

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Re: Lucia Family

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double posting.


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