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Missing link

Postby nickintexas » 19 Nov 2010, 15:35

I've found a wealth of info pre/post this generation...just can't quite make a connection. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Known:
Carmine Andreola + Filomena Simone had
Giovanni (March 27 1883)
Michele (Aug. 6 1888)
Antoinetta (unk)
Giuseppina (unk)
All in Casalvecchio Di Puglia (Foggia)

Assuming Carmine & Filomena were also born in Casalvecchio Di Puglia circa 1855-65....can anyone get any hits on any databases on who their parents are?

Thanks
My past is all behind me now.
Looking for Andreola, Fino, Simone, Rossacci & Capece primarily from Casalvecchio di Puglia.

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Nov 2010, 16:37

nickintexas wrote:I've found a wealth of info pre/post this generation...just can't quite make a connection. Any help is greatly appreciated.


Do you have Giovanni's Marriage record?

Groom: Giovanni Andreola
Groom's Titles & Terms (Original):
Groom's Titles & Terms (Standardized):
Groom's Race (Original):
Groom's Race (Standardized):
Groom's Age: 24 years
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1883
Groom's Birthplace: , , Italy
Bride: Maria Nina Tosches
Bride's Titles & Terms (Original):
Bride's Titles & Terms (Standardized):
Bride's Race (Original):
Bride's Race (Standardized):
Bride's Age: 22 years
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1885
Bride's Birthplace: , , Italy
Marriage Date (Original): 21 Apr 1907
Marriage Date (Standardized): 21 Apr 1907
Marriage Place: Milford, , Massachusetts
Marriage Registration Place: Milford, , Massachusetts
Marriage Registration Year: 1907
Groom's Father: Carmine Andreola
Groom's Father's Titles & Terms (Original):
Groom's Father's Titles & Terms (Standardized):
Groom's Mother: Filomena Simone
Groom's Mother's Titles & Terms (Original):
Groom's Mother's Titles & Terms (Standardized):
Bride's Father: Michelangelo Tosches
Bride's Father's Titles & Terms (Original):
Bride's Father's Titles & Terms (Standardized):
Bride's Mother: Tomasina Colagiovanni
Bride's Mother's Titles & Terms (Original):
Bride's Mother's Titles & Terms (Standardized):
Groom's Marital Status:
Bride's Marital Status:
Film Number: 2315300
Digital Folder Number: 4329358
Image Number: 821
Number of Images: 1
Reference Number: p 374 no 36
Collection: Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Nov 2010, 16:43

Do you have ship manifests for Carmine and Filomena?

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Re: Missing link

Postby nickintexas » 19 Nov 2010, 17:32

Yes, I've found that marriage document in the Massachusetts records.

No, I haven't seen in manifests....did you find some?

Thanks
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Looking for Andreola, Fino, Simone, Rossacci & Capece primarily from Casalvecchio di Puglia.

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Nov 2010, 17:43

No, but I'm looking... :-)

What about Census records? Did you locate any?

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Re: Missing link

Postby nickintexas » 19 Nov 2010, 19:53

No, my understanding is the they never came to the USA.
I can find all sorts of info on the FamilySearch "Italy- marriages, births & baptisms 1809-1900...except for these two people :roll:
My past is all behind me now.

Looking for Andreola, Fino, Simone, Rossacci & Capece primarily from Casalvecchio di Puglia.

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Nov 2010, 01:05

So Carmine and Filomena may not have immigrated, but we know that Giovanni immigrated (since he was married in Massachusetts) :-)

Do you know if any other children immigrated?

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Nov 2010, 01:22

You may want to write directly to the comune of Casalvecchio di Puglia to request birth and marriage records...

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Fabio Filzi, 66
71030 Casalvecchio di Puglia (FG)
ITALY


Write your request in Italian, and provide as much information about Carmine and Filomena as you can (approx. dates of birth, approx. date of marriage, names of children)
Help to write letters in Italian...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

FYI - the Comune website
http://85.18.241.211/casalvecchio/hh/in ... cc=1&jvs=1


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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Nov 2010, 01:37

You may already have this, but I'll post if for reference ...

1910 Census for Giovanni and Mariannina, and their 2 daughters
Living with father-in-law Michaelangelo Tosches, in Massachusetts
Giovanni's immigration date is listed as 1901, and Mariannina as 1906 (with her mother and siblings).

1910 United States Federal Census
about Giovanni Andreola
Name: Giovanni Andreola
Age in 1910: 29
Estimated birth year: 1881
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-Law
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Mariannina Andreola
Home in 1910: Milford, Worcester, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1900
[1901]
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Household Members:
Name Age
Michelange C Tosches 52
Tomasina Tosches 47
Nicola Tosches 20
Anna Maria Tosches 13
Joseph Tosches 10
Giovanni Andreola 29
Mariannina Andreola 25
Arcangela Andreola 3
Rasa Andreola 1 4/12 (Rosa)
[1]
Michelo Parlincco 17 (boarder)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2075 ... census.jpg

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Nov 2010, 01:47

nickintexas wrote:I've found a wealth of info pre/post this generation...just can't quite make a connection. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Known:
Carmine Andreola + Filomena Simone had
Giovanni (March 27 1883)
Michele (Aug. 6 1888)
Antoinetta (unk)
Giuseppina (unk)
All in Casalvecchio Di Puglia (Foggia)

Assuming Carmine & Filomena were also born in Casalvecchio Di Puglia circa 1855-65....can anyone get any hits on any databases on who their parents are?

Thanks


Could the Antoinetta above be "Annantonia" ?

Found a manifest for Giovanni Andreola, 24, from Foggia, arriving March 1907, and going to his sister Annantonia in Milford, MA

He is 11 lines from the bottom (the line numbers are not visible)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9383/a ... nifest.jpg

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Nov 2010, 01:50

Here is WWI registration card for Giovanni.
Living in Milford, MA
Wife is Mariannina

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9383/a ... nifest.jpg

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Nov 2010, 01:53

Brother Michele, also living in Milford, MA
1930 Census

1930 United States Federal Census
about Michele Andreola
Name: Michele Andreola
Home in 1930: Milford, Worcester, Massachusetts
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Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary L Andreola
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Michele Andreola 42
Mary L Andreola 42
Antonnette Andreola 9
Carmine Andreola 6
Nicola Andreola 1 7/12
Louisa Andreola 6/12

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Re: Missing link

Postby nickintexas » 22 Nov 2010, 13:33

Michele is my GF.
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We just traveled to Mass. and spent time with my Aunt Toni (she's the eldest child listed in that 1930 census). What a memory she has! I got so much info from her 8)
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I guess I'll write my letter....just frustrated that
I can find all sorts of info on the FamilySearch "Italy- marriages, births & baptisms 1809-1900...except for these two people
My past is all behind me now.

Looking for Andreola, Fino, Simone, Rossacci & Capece primarily from Casalvecchio di Puglia.

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Re: Missing link

Postby Tessa78 » 22 Nov 2010, 21:44

Hi Nick,

You are lucky that you have found so much information online! As for Italian records, not as much available in online databases.

While waiting for a reply to your letter to the comune, you might want to visit your nearest LDS Family History Center and order/rent the microfilms for Casalvecchio di Puglia.

FHC has civil regisitrations for the comune microfilmed from 1809-1929.
This includes births, marriages, deaths, etc. These are films of the original records in Italian.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... asalvecc++

You will need to visit the FHC to order, then return to view films when they come in.

To find the nearest Family History Center, enter your zip code on this site.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

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