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Girgenti Family

Postby nykrfan » 27 Nov 2010, 01:06

Hi I've seen many of the msg boards about Girgenti and coming from Sicily and Agrigento. My grandfather was vincenzo girgenti, 3/9/1884-- he married josephine panceca (sp?) came over about 1908 into NY--stayed in NY - Brooklyn. 3 boys, salvatore- married Mary D'Orio, john --married Theresa & nicholas.( no nothing about him) He lived with mother in law--Millia (sp?) Panceca.(sp?) he was a tailor--became blind--lived in Red Hook died in 1970 in Bklyn, Ny.

I am trying to find more info--but can't find accurate info--some sites they have info with names spelled so different--not sure who it is..I'd like to even find out where my grandparents came from in Italy--- can anyone please help me :cry: i feel like i'm circling a drain

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Nov 2010, 17:14

What US records have you already found? US censuses, WWI and WWII registration cards, etc?
Just so we don't duplicate... :-)

You can write for Vincenzo's SS application. It should have place of birth and names of parents.

From SSDI....
Social Security Death Index
about Vincenzo Girgenti
Name: Vincenzo Girgenti
SSN: 065-01-9703
Last Residence: 11221 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America
Born: 9 Mar 1884
Died: Apr 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

You can request (for a fee) online at this site...
http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Nov 2010, 17:24

WWII Registration card for Vincenzo - at Clinton St., Bklyn, NY
Wife...Josephine.
Employer - Saks, 34th St., NYC

This lists his place of birth as "Aderno, Italy" - which may actually be "Adrano, Province of Catania, Sicily"

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3588 ... tiwwii.jpg

There are currently 14 listings in the Italian Phone book for "Girgenti" in Adrano, Sicily...
http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... drano&ind=

If you wish to write to one or more ...
Letters in Italian to Possible relatives.
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... #relatives
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... etter.html

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Nov 2010, 17:52

1920 Census for the family of Vincenzo Girgenti (with various spellings :-) )

1920 United States Federal Census
about Vincent Girgendi

Name: Vincent Girgendi
[Vincent Gorgendi]
[Vincent Jugendi??]
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 12, New York, New York
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Josephina Girgendi
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1908
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Vincent Girgendi 36
Josephina Girgendi 27
[29]
Nickolas Girgendi 3 (Nicholas)
[3 1/12]
Sarvato Girgendi 1 (Salvatore)
[1 1/12]
Millia Panzika 46

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4020 ... census.jpg


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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Nov 2010, 18:49

Vincenzo may have been naturalized in the NEW YORK COUNTY Supreme Court...
Address on this index card is the same as the address on the 1920 Census... E. 39th St., Manhattan.

New York County Supreme Court Naturalization Petition Index, 1907-24
about Vincenzo Girgenti

Name: Vincenzo Girgenti
Address: 303 E. 39St.
Date: 3 Oct 1922
Volume #: 564
Page #: 138

Index to Declaration of Intent for Naturalization: New York County, 1907-1924
about Vincenzo Girgenti

Name: Vincenzo Girgenti
Declaration
Volume: 403
Declaration
Page: 56

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Nov 2010, 19:15

New York City marriage index... May be a long-shot :-)


Gergenti Vincenzo Oct 16 1915 Manhattan 24376
Purpura Giuseppina Oct 16 1915 Manhattan 24376

Can request this record at this site...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby nykrfan » 04 Dec 2010, 22:09

Thanks for the info----I did find the info you sent me--I believe that to be him---I guess I can ascertain that my grandmother and grandfather were married here in the US ( not sure tho -can't find anything about marriages) I can't seem to find his parents names or if he had any siblings---I can't find josephine(a) giussepina (?) when she even died. or where she was from in Italy--do u know how I'd be able to search that---I can't find her or her mother ( and I know there are a ton of misspellings) when they came over. How do you do this---u guys are amazing... :lol: Aderno is that anywhere near Girgenti /Agrigento and was it normal for people to be named after the name they may have lived in?

Thanks---you guys rock!

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 04 Dec 2010, 22:25

Tessa78 wrote:You can write for Vincenzo's SS application. It should have place of birth and names of parents.

From SSDI....
Social Security Death Index
about Vincenzo Girgenti
Name: Vincenzo Girgenti
SSN: 065-01-9703
Last Residence: 11221 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America
Born: 9 Mar 1884
Died: Apr 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

You can request (for a fee) online at this site...

http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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You best bet right now :-)

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby Tessa78 » 04 Dec 2010, 22:30

Tessa78 wrote:New York City marriage index... May be a long-shot :-)


Gergenti Vincenzo Oct 16 1915 Manhattan 24376
Purpura Giuseppina Oct 16 1915 Manhattan 24376

Can request this record at this site...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Don't be put off by the spellings here. There is a decent chance this is the record for your grandparents' marriage. According to the 1920 Census their oldest child is 3-1/2 years old. Marriage could very well have been in 1915!

This marriage record will have the names of parents for both bride and groom (including the maiden name of the mother), and the place the parents reside, and bride and groom were born.


A request at the above site is only about $12 - 15. Just put in the information about them, and the certificate number (noted above) and the borough (Manhattan).

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Re: Girgenti Family

Postby nykrfan » 08 Dec 2010, 19:15

Hi with your help I've advanced to this end: -Vincenzo Girgenti was born 1884 in Aderno, Italy died in NY in 1970----Came to US thru NY about 1907 was single---I believe married in ny to Giuseppina--( Panzeca) born in italy 1891- died in NY in 1950... her mother was born Carmela in Italy born 1868 buried in NY 1923. 1 son of vincenzo & giuseppina
( americanized to Josephine) is Salvatore joseph girgenti was born in NY 12/5/18 died in ny on 6/26ish/81- was married to Mary Diorio on 12/31/???? --another son was John Joseph married to Theresa and 3rd son Nicholas ( born abt 1917 in NY) I think married to a Vera. On the tomb stone it also lists a Benedetta Girgenti 1860- 1948 I guess born in italy buried in ny--not even quite sure hu she is...maybe vincenzo's mother(?)

SO I'm not finding any marriage info on anyone married here in the US--I see the other Giuseppina purpura but after looking at a picute of grave stone that is not them. Where can I search to at least narrow it down before I request something that may not be them? Again Much thanks


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