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Anselmo Family Origin

Postby nwangelo » 29 Nov 2010, 04:02

Hello, My name is Nicholas Angelo. My family comes from Italy but no one knows exactly what part they are from. The only information i have is that Gabriel Anselmo (later changed name to Angelo) was born on March 18 1871 in Italy. He was married to Maria Amprino born on october 15 1874 also in Italy. In fact she was an Italian citizen when she died in Fontana, California in 1962. Gabriel was was a Miner and died in San Bernardino, Ca in 1939. I believe they came to the US around 1912. This is really all I know. Any information helps! if anyone knows anywhere i can further this very futile search i'd much appreciate it! thanks!

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby jamiecapaldi » 29 Nov 2010, 10:50

Possibly South Italy/Sicily?

Best thing, would be to get a cencus with Gabriel and Maria on, and use the immigration date to search travel documents. Try to get other names of family and friends, which you know he/she visited or stayed with, etc to help with the search.
NAMES: Capaldi-Tedesco-Tamilio-Minchella-Verrecchia-Tomasso-Franchitto-Innelli-Arpino-Caringi-Colacicco-Macari-Pinchera-Salera-D'Orazio-Ambrosino-Di Mambro-Sigliocolo-Masello
PLACES: Cassino- UK, USA, Ireland, Canada & Australia
http://www.cassino-families.co.uk

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby princessbubbles_1 » 29 Nov 2010, 10:50

http://www.ellisisland.org
You may want to try this website It shows anyone entering the U.S
It's free you just have to sign up.
Hope this helps some ;-)
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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby pink67 » 29 Nov 2010, 16:08

On the (payment) site Ancestry.com I found these records:

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Mary M Angelo
Name: Mary M Angelo
Sex: Female
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Death Date: 7 Oct 1962
Death Place: San Bernardino

and possibly her son: :?:

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Gabriel Angelo
Name: Gabriel Angelo
Social Security #: 0
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1899
Birthplace: Arizona
Death Date: 28 Mar 1946
Death Place: San Bernardino
Mother's Maiden Name: Amprino
Father's Surname: Angelo

Do you believe this could have been the 1930 census about your ancestors?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Mary Anzelmo
Name: Mary Anzelmo
[Mary Anzelmo/Angelo]
Home in 1930: San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California
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Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head of House: Head (wife)
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

the head of the family was not indexed but it's listed on the handwritten manifest:
Frank Anselmo 59, head, born in Italy, married at the age of 19, immigr. year 1885, Naturalized
Mary Anzelmo 55 wife, born in Italy, married at the age of 18, immigr, year 1892
Peter Anzelmo 34 son, single, born in Oklahoma
Gabe Anzelmo 30 son, single, born in Arizona
Joseph Anzelmo 29 son, single, born in Arizona
Mary Anzelmo 27 daughter, married at the age of 19, born in Arizona
Laura Anzelmo 26 daughter, single, born in Arizona
John Anzelmo 23 son, single, born in Arizona
Isobel Anzelmo 22 daughter, widower? born in Arizona
Lucia Anzelmo 19 daughter, single, born in Arizona
Ernest Anzelmo 17 Son, single, born in California
Charles Anzelmo 16 son, single, born in CA
Richard Anzelmo 14 son, single born in CA
May Anzelmo 12 daughter, single, born in CA
Labert Anzelmo 10 son, single, born in CA
Eugene Sandoval 5 grandson, born in CA

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http://postimage.org/image/2i2tz9vt0/

can you confirm these records?

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby pink67 » 29 Nov 2010, 16:24

Same Family on the 1910 census:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Frank Anselmo
Name: Frank Anselmo
Age in 1910: 38
Estimated birth year: 1872
Birthplace: Austria .
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Austria
Mother's Birth Place: Austria
Spouse's name: Mary Anselmo
Home in 1910: Williams, Coconino, Arizona
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1886
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Anselmo 38 head, married since 14 years, first marriage, born in Austria, immigr. yer 1882, miner
Mary Anselmo 35 wife, married since 14 years, second marriage, immigr. yer 1892
Pete Anselmo 14 son, born in Indian territory
Gaberel Anselmo 11 son, born in AZ
Joseph Anselmo 13[10] son, born in AZ
Mary Anselmo 8 daughter, born in AZ
Leneda Anselmo 6 daughter, born in AZ
John Anselmo 3 son, born in AZ
Isabel Anselmo 1 daughter, born in AZ
Baselis Anselmo 31 brother, born in Austria, single, miner

image here:
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if these records are pertaining your family then this is the 1903 arrival manfiest for Frank Anselmo's brother Basilio, living with them in the 1910 census in Arizona:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0011

28 november 1903:

Anselmi Basilio, age 24, single, last residence in Italy Brez (Trento Province - Trentino Alto adige region, once under Austria),

I checked for you this very helpful italian database for Births in the Trento Province and found these interesting records:

https://secure.natitrentino.mondotrenti ... 739&mode=2

Nome: BASILIO (first name)
Cognome del nato: ANSELMI (lastname)
Sesso: M
Nome del padre: SISINIO (father's name)
Nome della madre: MARIA (mother's name)
Cognome della madre: RECLA (mother's lastname)
Anno di nascita: 26/11/1879 (DOB)
Parrocchia: BREZ - S. Floriano - chiesa parr. Maria Ausiliatrice (Parish of Brez)

Nome: VINCENZO GIUSEPPE
Cognome del nato: ANSELMI
Sesso: M
Nome del padre: SISINIO
Nome della madre: MARIA
Cognome della madre: RECLA
Anno di nascita: 7/11/1876
Parrocchia: BREZ - S. Floriano - chiesa parr. Maria Ausiliatrice

Nome: ARCANGELO STEFANO
Cognome del nato: ANSELMI
Sesso: M
Nome del padre: SISINIO
Nome della madre: MARIA
Cognome della madre: BORZAGA :!:
Anno di nascita: 20/10/1869
Parrocchia: BREZ - S. Floriano - chiesa parr. Maria Ausiliatrice

Nome: GABRIELE
Cognome del nato: ANSELMI
Sesso: M
Nome del padre: SISINIO
Nome della madre: MARIA
Cognome della madre: RECLA
Anno di nascita: 8/12/1871
Parrocchia: BREZ - S. Floriano - chiesa parr. Maria Ausiliatrice

Nome: VIGILIO
Cognome del nato: ANSELMI
Sesso: M
Nome del padre: SISINIO
Nome della madre: MARIA
Cognome della madre: RECLA
Anno di nascita: 12/11/1866
Parrocchia: BREZ - S. Floriano - chiesa parr. Maria Ausiliatrice

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby pink67 » 29 Nov 2010, 17:21

Again, from ancestry.com possible 1900 ensus:

1900 United States Federal Census
about Frank Anzelines
Name: Frank Anzelines
[Frank Anzelimo]
Home in 1900: Townships 19-25 and Grand Canyon Reserve, Coconino, Arizona Territory
Age: 28
Birth Date: Mar 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary Anzelines
Marriage Year: 1896
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 4
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Anzelines 28 head, married since 4 years, immigr. year 1888, alien
Mary Anzelines 24 wife, married since 4 years, mother of 2 children, immigr. year 1891
Peter Anzelines 3 son, born in Indian territory on Nov 1896
Gabriel Anzelines 0 son, born in AZ on Dec 1899

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby pink67 » 29 Nov 2010, 18:01

1920 United States Federal Census
about Frank Angels
Name: Frank Angels[Frank Angelo]
Home in 1920: San Bernardino, San Bernardino, California
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary Angels
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1880
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Angels 49
Mary Angels 48
Maria Angels 18
Louise Angels 16
[61]
Peter Angels 23
Gabriel Angels 20
Joe Angels 19
Johnny Angels 13
Isabel Angels 12
Lucy Angels 9
Ernest Angels 7
Charley Angels 5
Richard Angels 4
Margret Angels 3
Albert Angels 0
[1/12]

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby nwangelo » 30 Nov 2010, 03:41

Luara thank you so much. I know that they did live in Williams, Arizona and that they had my great grandfather there. I suppose the best guess I have at pinpointing their origin is in the town of Brez, Italy? Thanks to everyone who helped.

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby pink67 » 30 Nov 2010, 08:27

You're welcome Nicholas,
if you can confirm these records then at least the Anselmi's were coming from Brez:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brez

http://www.comune.brez.tn.it/index.php?macroarea=3

you can register to site I pointed you before (it's free) and go on with your research:

http://www.natitrentino.mondotrentino.n ... 739&mode=2

You'll find also Sisinio Anselmi's (Gabriele/Frank Anselmis's father) birth dates on 1834 :!: ...

and a possible sister of Frank/Gabriel:

Name: MARIA BARBARA
Last name/Family name: ANSELMI
Gender: F
Father’s name: SISINIO
Mother’s name: MARIA
Mother's family name: RECLA
Year of birth: 28/12/1873
Parish: BREZ - S. Floriano - chiesa parr. Maria Ausiliatrice

I believe that Sisinio did at least one trip to the U.S. because I found this arrival manifest and considering the rarity of his first name it's possible it was him:

from Ancestry.com:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Sisinio Anselmi
Name: Sisinio Anselmi
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1890
Birth Year: abt 1834
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Place of Origin: Italy
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: La Normandie
Search Ship Database: Search the La Normandie in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

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Re: Anselmo Family Origin

Postby pink67 » 30 Nov 2010, 08:34

Possible 1891 arrival manifest for Gabriele Anselmi (please note that on the same ship is listed also Virgilio Anselmi, possible Gabriele's brother?)

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Labriele Anselmi
Name: Labriele Anselmi
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1891
Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Austrian
Place of Origin: Austria
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: New York
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: La Champagne
Search Ship Database: Search the La Champagne in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

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