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Postby chelseaknows » 03 Dec 2010, 20:47

I have been searching for some time now in trying to find my gr grandfathers parents. His father's name may be Michele or Michael. My gr grandfathers name was Francesco Barberis b:1879 Italy d:1965 Portland OR. He was married to Caroline b:1884 d:1957 Portland OR. I have found 2 brothers that lived with him, Luigi and Eligio. They were from the Alessandria area. I don't know if there were any other siblings. I have contacted some Barberis's in the Portland area but have not been able to find a connection. There may be another brother Frederico, but according to one source, if they were brothers, they had a huge fight years ago and swore never to speak again.

Any help in pointing me in the right direction would be very much appreciated. Also is there any place I can search to find out what my gr grandmother Caroline's maiden name might be?

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 20:54

chelseaknows wrote:Also is there any place I can search to find out what my gr grandmother Caroline's maiden name might be?

Michele


Hi :-) and welcome!

Were your GGM and GGF married in Italy or US? Maiden name would be on the marriage record.

If she had a Social Security Number, you could request her SS application which would contain the names of her parents (including her father's name, and her mother's maiden name)

At this site...
http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:03

Declaration of Intention for Naturalization for Francesco Barberis

Residing in Portland, OR
Married to Caroline
Born 24 August 1879 in Ottiglio, Italy (Piedmont Region, Province of Alessandria)
Arrived 1906

Francesco is on the left side of image...click to enlarge
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9743 ... declar.jpg

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:06

Social Security Death Index for Frank Barberis

Social Security Death Index
about Frank Barberis
Name: Frank Barberis
SSN: 541-07-8754
Last Residence: Oregon
Born: 25 Aug 1879
Died: Jun 1965
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)

You can send for his application also!!! :-)

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:10

You may wish to write directly to the comune (town) for Francesco "Frank" Barberis' birth record. It will have the names of his parents. It may also have a notation of his marriage if he was married in Italy...which will have your GGM maiden name :-)

Write in Italian to make your request...

Address:
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Roma, 19
15038 Ottiglio (AL)
ITALY


Help with letters in Italian
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:18

Ship manifest for Francesco Barberis (as noted on the Declaration of Intent)

Arriving NY, May 1906, from Havre.
Francesco is 27 and single, from Ottiglio
Going to a friend, Giuseppe Palena, in Portland OR

Line 21
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\IMAGES\\T715-0709\\T715-07090420.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102228041132&name=Francesco%26nbsp%3BBarberis&doa=May+14%2C+1906&port=Havre&line=0021

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:27

Ok, so they were married in USA... (based on Francesco's "single" status on the manifest)

Probably in Portland?

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:36

Have located Louis (Luigi?) and Frederico Barberis on the 1910 Census living on 22nd St. in Portland. This is the same street to which Francesco was destined according to the ship manifest...

Page 1 - Frederico (about half way down page). There is what looks like a "Secondo Barberis" listed right below him. Both are Vegetable Peddlers.
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1118 ... ed1910.jpg

Page 2 - Louis (first line) truck farm laborer
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6662 ... is1910.jpg

They seem to have immigrated in 1907 and 1908...
You could also write to Ottiglio for their birth records...

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:46

Michele,

What were the names of Frank and Caroline's children?

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:50

Is this your GGF's family? Including brothers Elija (Eligio) and Louie (Luigi)?

1920 Census
Living on 25th Street in Portland

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Secondo Barbaris
[Secondo Pubocis]
Home in 1920: Portland, Multnomah, Oregon
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Carolina Barbaris
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Secondo Barbaris 41
Carolina Barbaris 38
Julia Barbaris 7
Mary Barbaris 7
Johnnie Barbaris 6
Elija Barbaris 36
Louie Barbaris 31


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3664/barbaris1920.jpg

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 21:58

WWI Registration Card for Frank Barberis...

Address is same as above 1920 Census (650 25th St., Portland OR)
Wife Caroline

So...Secondo and Francesco/Frank are same person... ?

If you write directly to Italy, but sure to offer both first names :-)

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8350/barberiswwi.jpg


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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 22:07

WWII Registration Card for Frederico Barberis (about 1942)

Living on SE 25th Ave in Portland
Wife - Maria
DOB 22 July 1883
Born in "Ottilio"

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4991 ... edwwii.jpg

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 22:11

WWI Registration Card for Eligio Barberis (about 1917)

Living at same address as Secondo/Francesco/Frank

Lists nearest relative as: "Cesarina Gatta; Olivola, Italy"
Olivola is also in Province of Alessandria. Cesarina could be his wife. Italian women kept their maiden names.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6114/b ... giowwi.jpg

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Postby Tessa78 » 03 Dec 2010, 22:22

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Record for Frank Second Barbers (About 1942)

He was living only a short distance from Frederico on SE 25th AVe., Portland.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3236 ... nkwwii.jpg

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Re: New Member searching Barberis family

Postby chelseaknows » 03 Dec 2010, 22:24

Wow! You guys are quick. This is my family. My grandmother was Julia.

Thanks to everyone for all the links.


Tessa78 wrote:Is this your GGF's family? Including brothers Elija (Eligio) and Louie (Luigi)?

1920 Census
Living on 25th Street in Portland

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Secondo Barbaris
[Secondo Pubocis]
Home in 1920: Portland, Multnomah, Oregon
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Carolina Barbaris
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Secondo Barbaris 41
Carolina Barbaris 38
Julia Barbaris 7
Mary Barbaris 7
Johnnie Barbaris 6
Elija Barbaris 36
Louie Barbaris 31


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3664/barbaris1920.jpg

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