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FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 03 Dec 2010, 22:28

Am new to this site. I am researching my biological family background.
My grandfather's name was Tomaso Fico
My grandmother's name was Guiseppina Bagnuolo
They lived in Mount Vernon, New York in 1920.
Other member's of the family were,
Tommasina (Marcy or Mary) Fico, daughter
Genero (James) Fico, son
Anthony Fico (son)
Dominck Fico (son)
If anyone has information on any of the above mentioned names, would
love to have contact with you.
Thanks
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 03 Dec 2010, 22:45

Welcome to the Forum!
So we don't duplicate your research so far, what US records have you already found.
Do you know what comune in Italy Tommaso and Giuseppina are from?
Are you interested in help on 'how to' research your family in Italy?
Thanks, Valarie
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Just for everyone's reference, is this your family?

possible 1920 census
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4401/19200.jpg

Home in 1920:
612 North Terrace Avenue, rents
Mount Vernon Ward 4, Westchester, New York

head Thomas Ficke 37, abt 1883 IT
- immig 1904, Al
- gardener, general
wife Josephine Ficke 34, abt 1886 IT
- immig 1904
daughter Massina Ficke 16, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1904
son James Ficke 13, abt 1907 NY
son Anthony Ficke 5, abt 1915 NY
son Domenico Ficke 3 6/12, abt 1916 NY


unsigned 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
born 15 Jan 1881
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5575/1918.jpg
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Was Tommaso married twice?

possibly related 1905 manifest
4 Nov 1905, SS Francesca, Naples to NY
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004
Raffaela Ucciero 21, abt 1884
- last residence Afragola (Afragola, Province of Napoli, Region Campania, Italy)
- destination Mt Vernon NY
- joining husband Tommasino Fico at 154 S 7th Ave
daughter Tommasina Fico 1, abt 1905
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 04 Dec 2010, 01:10

Yes this is them. My father is not listed, because he was born right after the census was taken. I am basically trying to find information on my grandmother. My grandfather passed away one week after my father was born in January 1920. She remarried in August of 1921 and then for some unknown reason gave my father and two other brothers away. Also trying to find out where and how I can obtain records from Italy.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 04 Dec 2010, 15:50

Thank you for the update and additional information
We'll see what we can do to help
You'll need to know the comune (town) in Italy where they were born.
Almost all records in Italy are kept at the comune.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 04 Dec 2010, 16:09

Thank you for your help. If you need more information, I will provide you with same if I have it.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby SundayDinner » 04 Dec 2010, 17:01

Dear Ourpops......
this could be a really strange coincidence. ive been trying to find out more infomation about my great great grandmother Carolina Giggi....... (italy to boston)
JUST this morning i was tracing some of the marriages in the family and i came across the Bagnuolo name and had to double check the first name and it is definately Giuseppa Bagnuolo who was married to Antonio Vitiello
and they had a daughter Pasqualina Vitiello b.1887 who married Amato Repucci on may 9 1907. I know Amato had a sister Serafina Reppucci b.1883 who married Angelo Sarno b.1881 in 1908. Angelo Sarno is my gggrandmother Carolina Giggi's nephew, his mother's name was Filomena Giggi..............this is how i came across the Bagnuolo name this morning.... please let me know if any of these surnames sound even sightly familiar to you......hopefully there is a connection and we can help eachother out :)
erica.
surnames: Giggi, Reppucci, Ruggilo, Strati and Laurino
maternal (mtDNA) haplogroup W
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 04 Dec 2010, 20:00

There may be a connection way back in Italy. My grandmother's name that appears on my fathers birth certificate shows Guiseppina Bagnuolo.
It also appears almost the same on the passenger list for arrival in New York in 1909 at age 22. I have not searched Italian records yet, but will be the next step in the search. I understand that it can be quite a task.
Thank you for your input.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 04 Dec 2010, 23:21

Hi
I was looking at your family pages on ancestry. com
Figo Family Tree
Great pictures!
Did you find Giuseppina (Josephine) and her new husband on the 1930 census?
Do you know where they may have lived?
Where did you get John's (Giovanni?) surname? It may not be his original name.
Do you have any records for Guiseppina Bagnuolo after 1921?
Thank you, Valarie
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 04 Dec 2010, 23:37

From your family pages, is this the manifest that belongs to your grandmother?

Notation B.U.S. may indicate Born in the United States

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3903/1909c.jpg
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line 25
Ship Name: Verona
Arrival Date: 6 Dec 1909
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Name: MO Giuseppa Bagnnoli (Maria Giuseppa Bagnuoli/o)
Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Location: New York
Birth Location Other: New York
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)

Notes:
Leaving mother Mariarosa in Ricigliano
(Ricigliano, province of Salerno, Campania)
Destination Brooklyn NY
In US before, NY
Joining brother-in-law Saverio Iacullo(?)
Born in NY NY
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Marriage Records

Fico Tommaso Dec 3 1911 12516 (1911) Kings
Bagnuiolo Giuseppina Dec 3 1911 12516 (1911) Kings
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Maria Giuseppina Bagnuolo's sister and brother's-in-law marriage record?

Jacullo Saverio Aug 16 1896 13235 (1896) Manhattan
(probably Iacullo)
Bognuold Nunziota Aug 16 1896 13235 (1896) Manhattan
(probably Bagnuolo, Nunziata/Annunciata)

If you think that Nunziata Bagnuolo may be related to your family, there are family pages on ancestry. com
GIURATO/JOHNSON Family Tree
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from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/
Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 05 Dec 2010, 14:26

OMG!!!! Thank you so much. I am sure that is her arrival information in 1909. I just couldn't figure out the last name of the brother-in-law. I have a copy of the marriage certificate of my grandmother's second marriage,
she remarried a man by the name of John Perreua and were going to live at 67 Sand Street, Mount Vernon, New York. They married on 7 Aug 1921, at 10 South 10th Ave. Mount Vernon. That is Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church. Having talked to a cousin, she informed me that his name was John Perrino not Perreua. The city directory for Mt Vernon in 1925 shows a John Perrino living at 67 Devonia Ave, which used to be Sand Street, but that is the only name listed. I can not find any information on my grandmother after she remarried, except for the fact she gave up custody of my father to a family by the name of Balogna/Malone who I believe were also living on Sand Street. My grandmother also placed Anthony and Dominick in a state institution according to the 1930 census.
This is a very strange and sad story, but my mission is to find out about
my father's biological family.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 05 Dec 2010, 16:09

I'm glad we could figure out the brother's-in-law name
Found him on two manifests, it appears that he was also from Ricigliano

Here's a possible 1930 census for Giuseppina (Josephine/Josie)
Marriage date is close...
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4395/19300.jpg

Home in April 1930:
27 North Third Avenue, rents $25
Mount Vernon, Westchester, New York

head John Perono 50, abt 1880 IT
- married age 40, abt 1920
- immig 1900, Pa
- laborer, city dept
wife Jasie Perono 42, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1900
son Richard Perono 8, abt 1922 NY
daughter Mary Perono 6, abt 1924 NY
son August Perono 3, abt 1927 NY
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 05 Dec 2010, 16:28

another possible clue

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/5575/1918.jpg

Giovanni Perrino
15 Apr 1881
31 N. Sand (or 31 N 5 Ave)
Mt Vernon, Westchester NY
Declarant

Nearest relative is someone at the same address
Card may not have been signed - it may state 'his mark' under the signature
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from the West Chester Archives
http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/default.htm
possible naturalization paperwork
(not much help except perhaps to confirm his birth date)

PERINO GIOVANNI Declaration 1917 A-0008(26) 74
PERRINO GIOVANNI Petition 1919 A-0019(28)S(Z1)
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 06 Dec 2010, 19:43

Valarie,
Thank you for all of the valuble information. Most of it seems to fit what I have on paperwork, or have been told by my cousin. Her mother was Tommasina (Marcy) and she is the oldest of the 3 of us that are relatives that are still alive. There may be more, who knows? I am going to send for a copy of my grandmother and grandfather's marriage certificate. That may led to more hints. So once again, thank you for all of your help.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby vj » 06 Dec 2010, 21:17

Thank you for your note :D .
I'm so glad we could help in some way.
Please let us know if there is anything we can do.
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Re: FICO/BAGNUOLO

Postby ourpops2 » 16 Dec 2010, 23:06

Valarie,
I was wondering if you could tell me what the PA stands for on the passenger manifest.
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