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NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby djm1228 » 18 Dec 2010, 03:24

Hi - My great grandparents were married in NYC on Jun 30, 1907. Does anyone know if information regarding the names of the bride and groom would be included on that paperwork? I'm looking for information on the parents of the bride (Catherine FIno) Mom=Luigia Nardello/Nardiello Dad = Joseph Fino. I'm trying to figure out where the Fino/Nardiellos came from. I'm not even sure if her last name was Nardiello or Nardello. Thanks, Diane
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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Dec 2010, 19:47

Hi Diane :-D

Generally, the NYC marriage record includes the names of parents of the bride and groom, and their place of residence. This includes the maiden name of mothers.

At this site ...
http://italiangen.org

Your GGM is listed as Caroline Find

Find Catherine Jun 30 1907 Manhattan 17527
Manfredonia Joseph Jun 30 1907 Manhattan 17527

Using the certificate number above and the borough, you can order from this site...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby JoeVenezia » 19 Dec 2010, 03:09

I found an immigration record on ancestry.com for a Giuseppe Fino (b.1872) from Atripalda....would make sense, no....or coincidence?????

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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby djm1228 » 19 Dec 2010, 03:32

Hi Tessa, Thanks so much for the info. I will check it out. Diane
Manfredonia (Atripalda, Italy)
Valerio (Atripalda, Italy)
Fino (Foggia ?, Italy)
Nardiello (Ruoti, Italy)
Chiuchiolo(Mirabella, Italy)
Camerlingo (Mirabella, Italy)
Murano, (Buccino, Italy/ Ruoti Italy)
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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby djm1228 » 19 Dec 2010, 03:40

Hi Joe, I hope you are well. I can't thank you enough for that lead on the Manfredonias.
I don't think that's him because I estimate his date of birth to be about 1854 or so. I know my GGGM was about 8 years or so older than him making her birth year about 1848 or so. They both died here in the US. He died abt 1940 in Weehawken NJ. She died about 1932 in Hoboken NJ. Dad doesn't know the exact dates and I can't seem to find death records for them. Legend has it that either the Fino or the Nardiello/Nardello or both came from Foggia. But that's a region and not a town so I can only guess which town they were from.

My nephew is currently going to school at Stephens Institute and I just asked him to go down to the records dept of the town to see if he can get a copy of death certificate to get exact names, etc for my GGGM. We'll see if they can find it.

I tried going to the Family Center but there was a sign on the door stating that it was closed until January, I'll check next year. Regards, Diane
Manfredonia (Atripalda, Italy)
Valerio (Atripalda, Italy)
Fino (Foggia ?, Italy)
Nardiello (Ruoti, Italy)
Chiuchiolo(Mirabella, Italy)
Camerlingo (Mirabella, Italy)
Murano, (Buccino, Italy/ Ruoti Italy)
Carlucci/Lombardi/Angiolillo/Salinardi (Ruoti Italy)

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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby blissiorio » 21 Dec 2010, 14:32

Word of caution - don't take the marriage certificate as the final authority on name spelling. On my great grandparents' marriage cert, the husband's name was spelled two different ways, his sister in law's name was butchered, and my GGM's name had the wrong vowel at the end. Great sources of info and great to have but many times the info was written or typed in by someone who didn't speak/write Italian.
Researching surnames:
[In Teramo area] - Core / Fani / Venanzi / Secone / di Luca / Vannoni / Leteo / Bianchini / Cistola / Felicione / di Marco / Casalena / Romantini / Cintioli / di Francesco / Caponi / Foschi / Traini / d'Ascenzo / Ciare / Ciavattini

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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby suanj » 21 Dec 2010, 16:44

Hi, if this census is right:
1900 United States Federal Census about Louisa D'Fino
Name: Louisa D'Fino
[Louisa Fino]
[Louisa Fino]
[Louisa S Fino]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 45
Birth Date: May 1855
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1865
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 5
Spouse's name: Joseph D'Fino
Marriage Year: 1880
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 20
Occupation: View on Image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph D'Fino
50
Louisa D'Fino
45
Rosa D'Fino
16
Katie D'Fino
13
Michael D'Fino
17
Annie Wilson
41



the D' before of Fino could be for De Fino or Del Fino surname; the Louisa maiden name could be Nardella... both the surnames are in Foggia area..
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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby suanj » 21 Dec 2010, 16:52

the Catherine marriage( already posted by Tessa, but here more details):
Groom's Name: Joseph P. Manfredonia
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Catherine F. N. Fino
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1907
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Teraphinus
Groom's Mother's Name: Peppinis Valeri
Bride's Father's Name: Joseph
Bride's Mother's Name: Louisa Nardello
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00430-3
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1452186
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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby Tessa78 » 21 Dec 2010, 19:10

Great marriage details, suanj!!! :-D

As for the Fino surname, I also thought it might be Del Fino, or another variation... As you say, found in the Foggia area.

Using these variations may help to locate a manifest... :-)

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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby suanj » 21 Dec 2010, 20:30

Hi Tessa, it could be helpful to know if Giuseppe and Luisa married in Italy or not; maybe they are in 1880 census... and the surname spelling could be more correct..
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Re: NYC Marriage Certificate INFO

Postby djm1228 » 22 Dec 2010, 01:22

HI All - thanks for all of your posts! Everyone has been really helpful on the board.

A few things. Boy, the names are really screwed up in some cases. I guess it really doesn't make any sense to order a copy of the marriage certificate if it's this information that will be provided to me.

Louisa, She really was about 8 yrs older than Joseph but she always lied about her age because she was embarassed about that.

They were married in Italy according to my father around 1880 and then came over shortly after that for good. He might have come over himself before that time for a visit and then went back.

I've seen some of that infor before. But the real question is whether their last name may have been shorted from D'Fino or Del Fino to Fino. How do you think I could find that out?

Is their a document for his or her naturalization?

Thanks so much for your help.

Regards, Diane
Manfredonia (Atripalda, Italy)
Valerio (Atripalda, Italy)
Fino (Foggia ?, Italy)
Nardiello (Ruoti, Italy)
Chiuchiolo(Mirabella, Italy)
Camerlingo (Mirabella, Italy)
Murano, (Buccino, Italy/ Ruoti Italy)
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