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Still NO luck finding where Catello Zullo entered the US.

Postby JoeZurlo » 02 Jan 2011, 00:05

Hello all, BIG thank you to Suanj for providing valuable information in my search for my Great Grandfather, Catello Zullo. Still a crucial piece of the puzzle is still missing. Catello says he arrived in the US 1890 from Castellammare di Stabia, but Ellis Island and Castle Garden have no records of his arrival. If he arrived in 1890 he was nine years old. Surname was misspelled Zurolo and Zurlo, correct spelling is Zullo. Libees mentioned other ports of arrival such a Philladelphia and Atlantic ports. Any web sites for these that don't charge? Where else can I look? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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Re: Still NO luck finding where Catello Zullo entered the US

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jan 2011, 00:24

If he arrived in 1890, you would not find his passenger list with the Ellis Island Records, as those only begin in 1892. On the castlegarden.org website, there is, unfortunately, no way to do a sound search of the surname. So, if it is badly misspelled, unless you can creatively come up with a lot of variations in spelling of the surname yourself, you won't find him on that website either.

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Re: Still NO luck finding where Catello Zullo entered the US

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jan 2011, 00:37

As far as I know, steamship arrivals from Italy to ports such as Boston, Philadelphia, and Baltimore did not begin until 1904.

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Re: Still NO luck finding where Catello Zullo entered the US

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jan 2011, 00:50

ZUROLO CATELLO 24 M 2 Jun 1906 CASTELLAMMARE

are you sure this is not him arriving in 1906?

this is from www.castlegarden.org

I just did a search using the first name

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Postby maestra36 » 02 Jan 2011, 00:53

I am linking your other thread here, as I see on that thread that you say that the 1906 arrival is not him

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 19893.html

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Postby JoeZurlo » 02 Jan 2011, 01:21

Thanks for your help and no that isn't him in 1906. So where in 1890 did immigrants arrive on the East Coast?

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Postby lilbees » 02 Jan 2011, 12:18

The information Maestra gave is incorrect. Arrival at other ports on the East Coast, etc., can be found 1800 onward. I have family members who arrived in 1840 and 1846 in Philedelphia. The same is true of Boston. I used the Steve Morse one step web pages to start with. It then went to Ancestry for a search.

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Postby maestra36 » 02 Jan 2011, 12:30

My question is did those ships originate in Italian ports or did they originate in German ports or British ports, etc? I don't believe they originated in Italian ports, but you can correct me if I am wrong.

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Postby lilbees » 02 Jan 2011, 12:40

So sorry Maestra,

Departures for Italian ports were after 1900 but some French ports were used early on.

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Re: Still NO luck finding where Catello Zullo entered the US

Postby maestra36 » 02 Jan 2011, 12:50

Sorry that what I typed above was misleading. Yes, there were Italians coming into various East Coast U.S. ports early on, but they didn't travel directly from Italy. Actually departures from Italian ports started in 1890. My one great grandfather arrived in 1893 and he left from the port of Naples.

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Postby lilbees » 02 Jan 2011, 13:20

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :D

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Postby lilbees » 02 Jan 2011, 13:21

I know this is off topic but Maestra, can you take a look at the translation section and see if you can read what I posted. Livio gave it a try but he couldn't read the notation on the last Liste di Leva anymore than I could.

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Postby pink67 » 02 Jan 2011, 14:36

From what I know there were ships leaving from Genova and arriving to the port of NY already since 1850s...

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Postby suanj » 02 Jan 2011, 14:48

Hi all;
it is very hard to find Catello arrival; by italian military draft registration card, Catello resulting to be in NY, USA; the italian military draft registration card is of 1900 year, so in 1900 Catello was in NY; surely he immigrated before, maybe with parents, and I found that Catello had a sister, Carmela married in Manhattan, New York
Groom's Name: Gennerosa Lopez ( Generoso Lopez)
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Carmela Zurlo
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 09 Sep 1897
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Alfonso
Groom's Mother's Name: Cristina Dibennedetto
Bride's Father's Name: Vincenzo
Bride's Mother's Name: Catarina Coppole

Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00053-8
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1503717
Reference Number:

I cannot find more abt Generoso Lopez and Carmela nee Zullo( aka Zurlo); maybe descovering the 1900 census of Carmela or Catello we can know with more precision the immigration year...
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Postby suanj » 02 Jan 2011, 15:04

ahh.. finally I found the 1905 census of Carmela Lopez nee Zullo/Zurlo:

129 Ginario Lopez 1877 — Italy Manhattan, New York, New York Male | 28y | W | Head
130 Camello Lopez 1879 — Italy Manhattan, New York, New York Female | 26y | W | Wife
in USA from 16 years, so arrived abt in 1889! citizen!
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5755 ... alopez.jpg


In same page( right page) ZULLO Vincenzo and wife Filomena ( Caterina changed the first name?) and Dora daughter....
It cannot be a coincidence; I am sure that Carmela Lopez is Catello's sister!
And the Vincenzo ZULLO in 1905 must be the Catello's father! immigrated from 25 years, so abt 1880/1... at this point immigrated just after Catello birth... wife and daughter imm. around 1898... Filomena must be Caterina nee Coppola...

I am positive that they are the Catello parents and siblings...

Carmela Lopez is without the husband in 1910 census and is registered with maiden name and single:
1910 United States Federal Census
about Vincenzo Zurala
Name: Vincenzo Zurala
Age in 1910: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Italy

Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Filomena Zurala
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1885
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincenzo Zurala 58 imm. 1885
Mary Fantario 21
Tony Fantario 18
Louis Fantario 14
John Fantario 11
Michelina Fantario 8
Filomena Zurala 53 imm. 1890
Carmela Zurala 31 imm.1890


http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8213/1910zullo.jpg
lacking on the census ( may 1910) the other sister of Catello: Dora Zullo; she was 17 in 1905 so born abt in 1888....
I hope of to find more abt Catello also!
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