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LaRosa & Parino

Postby Naples13 » 06 Jan 2011, 01:41

My Grandmother Angeline La Rosa Naples was born c. 1903 in NY city (but moved to Buffalo, NY). Her parents were Joannis (John) LaRosa and Marie or Maria Parino (or possibly Piranio ~ handwriting is difficult to read) I was wondering is anyone would have any leads on John as he is a big brick wall for my family.

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 01:57

Naples13 wrote:My Grandmother Angeline La Rosa Naples was born c. 1903 in NY city (but moved to Buffalo, NY). Her parents were Joannis (John) LaRosa and Marie or Maria Parino (or possibly Piranio ~ handwriting is difficult to read) I was wondering is anyone would have any leads on John as he is a big brick wall for my family.


Sounds like you have the birth certificate or the baptism certificate...
No mention of John's place of birth?

At www.italiangen.org
Possible birth record
Larosa Angela Aug 14 1902 32363 Manhattan

If interested, you can request at this site...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... irth.shtml

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:01

Marriage Record

Larosa Giovanni Sep 2 1901 Manhattan 14806
Peraina Maria Sep 2 1901 14806 Manhattan


You can also request this record using the certificate # above. Should have names of bride and groom's parents, and their place of birth... :-)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:08

Possible WWI Draft Registration Card for Giovanni (John) LaRosa
Living on Pleasant Place, Brooklyn, NY
Wife Maria LaRosa

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Giovanni Larosa
Name: Giovanni Larosa
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 8 Jun 1875
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754615
DraftBoard: 82

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Naples13 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:14

THANK YOU! I think this very well could be. This has been a brick wall because my Aunt (the oldest live relative of my father's) doesn't share & never talks about this. My father who is the "baby" was too young to remember any of these people & his mother Angela passed when he was a teen. The story was that Maria was married to this LaRosa and had a child, Angela in NYC. A man named Alessandro Gambino fell in love with her and "killed" her husband. Noone ever had proof but Marie is buried with her husband Alexander Gambino. I do have a marriage record from the church from 1918 from here in Buffalo but never knew where else to look because the only other clue was Angela was supposedly born in Brooklyn but there was no written proof that I could find. May I ask you where you found this stuff?

And THANK you again!

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:19

Glad to have helped!

The birth and marriage record I referenced above were from the free site...
www.italiangen.org

The WWI card (which may or may not be your Giovanni) I found on Ancestry.com, which is a paid subscription site...

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:20

So the church record you have is the marriage of Maria and Alessandro Gambino in 1918? in buffalo?

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Naples13 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:35

No, the marriage certificate was Angela LaRosa...daughter of Maria, step daughter of Alex. I have seen the graves of Alex & Marie. Would there be places to find a possible death certificate for La Rosa? Maybe a newspaper?

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:43

I'm trying to find something on Giovanni LaRosa's death, but it's hard. We don't have a date of death. Where were they living at the time? NYC or Buffalo?

I'm trying to find the family in the 1910 Census but having no luck...

Did Angela have siblings?


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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 02:48

Found this record in the NYC death index...

LeRose Giovanni 43 y Apr 17 1909 12119 Manhattan


Without knowing Giovanni's actual date of birth, we can't say this is him.

However, if you request the marriage record and confirm his date of birth, then check against this age in 1909, you can decide whether you want to request this record from NYC...

Just thinking out loud.... if he died in 1909, then I WOULDN"T find them in the 1910 Census!!! Hmmm.

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby maestra36 » 06 Jan 2011, 03:34

This information goes with the marriage record information found by T-with the parents' names given-

Groom's Name: Giovanni Larosa
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Maria Peraine
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 02 Sep 1901
Marriage Place: Manhattan, New York, New York
Groom's Father's Name: Guglieleno
Groom's Mother's Name: Angela Buttacavoli
Bride's Father's Name: Benedetto
Bride's Mother's Name: Giuseppa Dipaola
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00514-0
System Origin: New_York-ODM
Source Film Number: 1570516
Reference Number:


Tessa78 wrote:Marriage Record

Larosa Giovanni Sep 2 1901 Manhattan 14806
Peraina Maria Sep 2 1901 14806 Manhattan


You can also request this record using the certificate # above. Should have names of bride and groom's parents, and their place of birth... :-)

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 03:35

Could this be Alexander Gambino and Maria in 1920 Census?
Living on Myrtle Ave, Erie, NY
Angela would have married in 1918, so not on this census.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Alexander Gambbino
Name: Alexander Gambbino
Home in 1920: Buffalo Ward 2, Erie, New York
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary Gambbino
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1911
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Gambbino 38
Mary Gambbino 38
James Gambbino 12
Jennie Gambbino 11
Mary Gambbino 10
Josephine Gambbino 8
Joseph Gambbino 6
Bennie Gambbino 4
John Accasceo 28 (boarder)

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 03:37

Possible WWI registration card for Alexander Gambino...
Also on Myrtle Ave, Buffalo, Erie, NY
Wife - Maria Gambino

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9524/gambinowwi.jpg

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2011, 03:40

Hi Peg,

Good find on parents' names on marriage record! :-)

Too bad it doesn't also include Giovanni's age :-?

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Re: LaRosa & Parino

Postby maestra36 » 06 Jan 2011, 04:32

Hi T
Happy I found the parents' names, and the paternal grandmother was also an Angela, so that is good news.

I tried to find them on the NYS 1905 census, just searching spelling variations in the index, but no luck with that. I thought you might get an estimated year of birth for Giovanni that way.

Peg


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