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De Cellis

Postby dangli » 26 Jan 2011, 18:52

My great great grandmother was named Carmela DeCellis (DeSillis, etc, etc.) born April 27, 1879. Her death certificate says that she was born in Santo Felo, Italy (no such place). Also, her husband was Vito Vaccaro from Avigliano. They would have emigrated around 1896 after the birth of thier first daughter, Anna, who was born in Avigliano. They settled in Stamford, CT. I've struck out quite a bit with these. Vito I was able to locate through letter writing to Avigliano. I have had no such luck with the other two. I have written to the National Archives to check on Anna's naturalization forms, but so far, again, no luck.

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Re: De Cellis

Postby misbris » 26 Jan 2011, 19:13

Name could possibly be De Cillis.

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Re: De Cellis

Postby vj » 26 Jan 2011, 20:16

Hi!
This may help narrow down the manifest date
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possible 1900 census
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5095/1900q.jpg
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Home in 1900:
27 Pacific Street
Stamford, Fairfield, Connecticut

head Vito Veccado 36, born 1864 IT
- married 8 yrs, abt 1892
- immig 1880, in US 18 yrs, Na (naturalized)
wife Carmella Veccado 22, born Apr 1878
- 3 children
- immig 1890, in US 10 yrs
daughter Maria Veccado 5, born Oct 1894 IT
- immig 1898, in US 2 yrs
daughter Assunta Veccado 2, born Aug 1897 CT
son Pepin Veccado 11/12, born Jun 1900 CT

mother Mary Veccado 60, born 1840 IT
- widowed
- 8 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1885, in US 15 yrs
boarder Angelo Veccado 23, born 1877 IT
- immig 1898, in US 2 yrs

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Re: De Cellis

Postby misbris » 26 Jan 2011, 22:07

Hi, vj

Sounds like the right family, but the census info doesn't fit regarding the birth of !st child. :?

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Re: De Cellis

Postby vj » 26 Jan 2011, 22:21

Hi mj :D
Here's a possible 1910
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Immigration dates are more likely
Maria may be Anna (Mariantonia?)
Assunta may be Susan
First son Pepino?? isn't on the census, but daughter Josephine is the correct age
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4919/1910z.jpg

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Re: De Cellis

Postby misbris » 26 Jan 2011, 22:23

possible 1910 census

Name: Vito Vaccaro
Age in 1910: 45
Estimated birth year: 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Carmele Vaccaro
Home in 1910: Stamford Ward 2, Fairfield, Connecticut
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1891
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vito Vaccaro 45
Carmele Vaccaro 32
Annie Vaccaro 15
Susan Vaccaro 13
Josephine Vaccaro 11
Mary Vaccaro 9
Rosie Vaccaro 6
Louise Vaccaro 4
Tony Vaccaro 2
Isabel Vaccaro 1
Lucy Vaccaro 1/12
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Re: De Cellis

Postby dangli » 26 Jan 2011, 23:01

thanks for the work on this one. That's our info, misbris. Carmella had 13 children. I have the 1910, 20 and 30 censuses on them. I'm just stuck going any further back on her. Hrm...

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Re: De Cellis

Postby misbris » 26 Jan 2011, 23:08

I think vj is correct about the 1900 census, but dates are inconsistent on immigration.

If Vito immigrated 1892 or later, records will be at Ellis Island. Earlier records are at Castle Garden, but early manifests don't give much info.

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Re: De Cellis

Postby pink67 » 27 Jan 2011, 13:36

:? I know that lastname is completely different from De Cillis/Di Cellis but this 1896 arrival manifest maybe worth a look:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Mariantonio Vaccaro
Name: Mariantonio Vaccaro
Arrival Date: 22 Apr 1896
Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 4
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Elysia
Search Ship Database: Search the Elysia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

travelling with Lisbona Carmela, age 18, female, going to Stamford

Image:
http://postimage.org/image/89w4s2ys/

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Re: De Cellis

Postby dangli » 27 Jan 2011, 14:12

Hrm...that sounds like a tack to take.

Was Anna a nickname for Mariantonio?

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Re: De Cellis

Postby vj » 27 Jan 2011, 15:04

Great find Laura :D !
It's possible that Mariantonia may have been traveling with a relative or friend of the family if this Carmela isn't her mother.
Valarie

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Re: De Cellis

Postby dangli » 29 Jan 2011, 05:03

update!!!

Wow is all I have to say. I think Laura might have gotten it right!


So I went to the registrar of births in Stamford, CT. today and was able to look at the birth records for Carmella Vaccaro's other children. Lo and behold, Carmella's last name is listed differently for each birth!

See how it changes!

post 1915 - DeCillis
1912 - DeGuiles
1910 - Diagilis
1909 - DeCrelis
1906 - Risboris
1903 - Resabone
1901 - Risabone

It morphs from one to the next. And...see how much more similar Risabone is to Lisbona!

How is this much change possible?

AND on the post 1915 entry her home town is listed as San Veil. I thinka follow up letter to San Fele is due...everyone agree???

I am truly stunned about this and extremely excited that this route is open again.

HUGE THANKS!!!

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Re: De Cellis

Postby misbris » 29 Jan 2011, 17:24

Don't forget the other suggestion made about place of birth.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 20416.html

Lisbona is a surname that appears in Campania.

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Re: De Cellis

Postby dangli » 29 Jan 2011, 21:40

I will have to order the films for Montefalcione to see if this is correct. Thanks for the suggestion!


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