Birth Certificates from Palermo

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Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby JILLJIORDANO » 27 Jan 2011, 18:26

I am trying to get my dual citizenship but the only thing holding me back are my grandparents birth certificates from Palermo, Sicily.

My grandfathers name was Francesco Lopes (Lopez -sometimes spelled) Giordano born 07/05/1887. HIs father was Raffaelle Giordano and mother was Emmanuella Lopes (z). I found records of his brother and sister but none for him.
I found them on this site.
http://sites.google.com/site/palermobir ... earch-site

My grandmothers name was Giuseppina Conti born 12/15/1891 in Palermo. Parents were Anna Crivello and Vincenzo Conti.

I am having a very hard time finding anything on my grandfather. I found ship info for my grandmother but not for my grandfather as I was told he "stowed" away to get here. She came to the U.S. when she was about 2 and he was 17 when he came.

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Jan 2011, 19:11

Hello JILLJIORDANO :-) Welcome!

Do you have US Census records for your grandparents? If not, then...

Where did your grandparents live in US? What was Francesco's occupation?
Can you provide names of children?

Maybe we can find some other clues... :-)

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby pink67 » 27 Jan 2011, 19:16

possible 1903 arrival manifest:

9 july 1903

Giordano Francesco Paolo, age 16, single, male from Palermo to Brooklyn to join his brother Vincenzo

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Jan 2011, 19:18

Could this be your grandparents in the 1930 Census?

Francis (Francesco?) is 42, and arrived about 1905 (which would make him about 17)
Wife is 36, and arrived about 1894, which would make her an infant.

Name: Francis L Giordano
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Josephine Giordano (Giuseppina?)
Race: White
Occupation: Plasterer
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis L Giordano 42
Josephine Giordano 36
Ralph Giordano 11
Vincent Giordano 9
Emmanuel Giordano 5
Joseph Giordano 4 2/12
Ella R Giordano 2 3/12

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7100 ... census.jpg

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HI Laura :-D

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby JILLJIORDANO » 27 Jan 2011, 19:40

YES! Tessa78, That is him. I cant find any info on their births in Palermo though. Thats the only thing holding me back from being able to apply for the dual citizenship.

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby JILLJIORDANO » 28 Jan 2011, 01:20

I just found out that my grandfather may have been born at home. Is there any place that might have some sort of record for that?

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby Tessa78 » 28 Jan 2011, 04:29

Most babies were born at home in Italy. It was then required by law that the infant be presented to the official at the Town Hall so the birth could be verified (by witnesses) and recorded (by the official).
That is the Civil Birth Record that is kept at the town level.
Once you find out the EXACT town of birth, you can request the record.

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby JILLJIORDANO » 28 Jan 2011, 04:31

Is Monreale a town in Palermo? I remember my grandpa saying something about it

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Postby pink67 » 28 Jan 2011, 07:45

I found records of his brother and sister but none for him.
I found them on this site.
http://sites.google.com/site/palermobir ... earch-site


This great index goes from 1896 to 1905, your ancestors cannot be present in this index being born earlier... do you mean that you already asked to the Comune of Palermo a birth act and they told you that there isn't one?


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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby ricbru » 28 Jan 2011, 13:38

Monreale is a municipality, and it has its own civil record office.
I hope it helps
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JILLJIORDANO wrote:Is Monreale a town in Palermo? I remember my grandpa saying something about it

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby Joannsalvo » 29 Jan 2011, 12:32

Check out site below, it is free to register.
They have Monreale chuch records on this site.

https://www.familysearch.org/s/image/sh ... PRagg%253D

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Postby ricbru » 29 Jan 2011, 13:28

I have checked between may and july 1887 on -monreale church records, nothing was found, maybe the date is wrong? maybe monreale is not the right place?
ciao Riccardo

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby JILLJIORDANO » 29 Jan 2011, 16:29

ricbru wrote:I have checked between may and july 1887 on -monreale church records, nothing was found, maybe the date is wrong? maybe monreale is not the right place?
ciao Riccardo


I believe his birthdate is right and he was born in Palermo but I dont know exactly where. A family member mentioned to me he might have been born at home. I found records of his younger brother and sister being born but none for him.

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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby ricbru » 29 Jan 2011, 17:13

For sure he was born at home, like everyone else at that time,
hospital was something only for wealth people
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Re: Birth Certificates from Palermo

Postby JILLJIORDANO » 29 Jan 2011, 18:27

ricbru wrote:I have checked between may and july 1887 on -monreale church records, nothing was found, maybe the date is wrong? maybe monreale is not the right place?
ciao Riccardo


I believe his birthdate is right and he was born in Palermo but I dont know exactly where. A family member mentioned to me he might have been born at home. I found records of his younger brother and sister being born but none for him.


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