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Hugo Valenti

Postby pistoia » 29 Jan 2011, 13:04

Hy everybody

Getting crazy about Hugo Valenti family from Pistoia ,Tuscany.

MY information : Hugo Valenti born 06 March 1884 Pistoia
Died 1st December 1963 in New York


married to Effesina Ott born 21 March 1887 in Germany
died 15 June 1973 in New York

almost certain : parents from Hugo: father Alfredo Valenti born 1845
in Italy
mother Cesrea/Teresa Lummi
1854 in ? prob.Italy
died 25 Feb.1914 in New York

I know about one child , Olga Valenti : born 4 march 1909 in New York
died 1st Feb 1981 in New York

married to : Rocco Quagliara : born 3rd August 1919
: died 1983

Last Name spelling for Olga variyng over the years, from Valenti to Valente, Valentine, Valentino and again Valenti, Valente ... mixed up totaly through the years.


Thanks for your help I appreciate it very much

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby Tessa78 » 29 Jan 2011, 15:01

Hello Marco and welcome :-)

It that your family tree for Hugo Valenti on Ancestry?

So as not to duplicate efforts...
You have found and cited:
1910, 1920, 1930 US Censuses
WWI and WWII Draft Registration
Social Security Death Index.


What other information are you looking for? How can we help? :-)

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby Tessa78 » 29 Jan 2011, 15:05

Reference to Naturalization Petition Index in New York...

New York County Supreme Court Naturalization Petition Index, 1907-24
about Hugo Valenti
Name: Hugo Valenti
Address: 37 City Hall Place
Date: 25 Jul 1918
Page #: 180

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pistoia » 29 Jan 2011, 16:49

Yes that´s correct Tessa, it´s my family tree for Hugo Valenti on ancestry.com
On his father, which Alfredo; if it is Alfredo is which the right one.
Looking also for his wife´s parents and when she /they came to the U.S from Germany (most probably ) .
Where did they marry?
Olga, their daughter , does she have children?

I don`t know when he or his father came to the U.S.
There is also Hugo and Ettarina ( spelling ) Valenti in 1910 census, but birth is 1886 in Ireland...

I am confused and hope you understand what I am looking for at the moment.

Thank you so much for your effort.

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pistoia » 29 Jan 2011, 17:00

n.B.

I am almost sure tht the right Hugo Valenti is from Brooklyn; Kings residence 1930
Because of the similarity of the spouses name Effesina / Ettarina there is a little, minute doubt...

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby Tessa78 » 29 Jan 2011, 20:47

pistoia wrote:Yes that´s correct Tessa, it´s my family tree for Hugo Valenti on <a href="http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-3166187-10456885" TARGET="_blank">Ancestry.com</a>
On his father, which Alfredo; if it is Alfredo is which the right one.
Looking also for his wife´s parents and when she /they came to the U.S from Germany (most probably ) .
Where did they marry?
Olga, their daughter , does she have children?

I don`t know when he or his father came to the U.S.
There is also Hugo and Ettarina ( spelling ) Valenti in 1910 census, but birth is 1886 in Ireland...

I am confused and hope you understand what I am looking for at the moment.

Thank you so much for your effort.

regards

Marco


If you are not sure of his father's name...
You have Hugo's SS# from the SSDI, so you can request his SS application (SS-5) from Social Security. This application will have the names of his parents and his place of birth...
Request online at this site -
http://genealogy.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi= ... t/main.jsp

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby Tessa78 » 29 Jan 2011, 21:03

From this site...
www.italiangen.org

Marriage Index for Hugo and Efesina


Valenti Hugo May 12 1910 Manhattan 10786
Ott Efesina May 12 1910 10786 Manhattan


You can request this marriage record for a fee. It should have the names of parents and places of birth... Use the certificate # above (10786) and the borough - Manhattan

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... iage.shtml

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pistoia » 30 Jan 2011, 11:23

I´ll try that thank you so much, will keep you updated on that one.
Some other question coming up the next days.

regards

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pistoia » 30 Jan 2011, 13:03

Can´t ask for his SS application (SS-5) on genealogy.about.com/gi...t/main.jsp probably because I am in Germany. Or am I doing something wrong?

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby Tessa78 » 30 Jan 2011, 22:06

Hi Marco,

If you're having trouble with the online request, you can print the form and mail it in.

Here is the site, just click on the link to the form and print it.
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWe ... nstruction

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pistoia » 14 Feb 2011, 19:55

Hi Tessa

Today I received certificate and record of marriage for Hugo Valenti and Efesina Ott.
Unfortunately their birthplace is only Italy and Germany without specification of town.
On Hugos father: Alfred / Alfredo I have no more infos
" mother: Cesera / Teresa Lummi or Lunni no more infos
only those mentioned in my first posting

On Efesinas father from Germany : strange first name "christy"
mother : Amelia Meyer

Looking now for infos (census, marriage certificate birth/death certification immigration ...)on Alfred Valenti and Cesera Lummi / Lunni, Christy Ott and Amelia Meyer.
Possible related names: Olga Valenti, Rocco Quagliara, Joseph Lulli,Battaglia

Thank you and Happy Valentinesday

Marco

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby suanj » 14 Feb 2011, 21:49

Hi,
here the 1905 census; Hugo (Ugo in italian spell) living with brother in law, Dante LULI, and neighbors are Alfredo and Chesira ( Cesira)


Name: Alfredo Valento
Residence: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Race: W
Gender:
Family Number: 1820
Page Number: 64
Line Number: 47
Film Number: 1428424
Digital Folder Number: 4518299
Image Number: 00273
Household Gender Age
Frank Labertoni M 26y
Theresa Barbaceri F 40y
Adolph Barbaceri M 20y
Silvio Barbaceri M 14y
Giovanna Barbaceri F 17y
Theresa Casazza F 26y
Carlo Capaletti M 18y
Diego Saie M 38y
Mary Saie F 38y
Joseph Saie M 14y
Francesca Saie F 2y
Emanuel Apostolis M 35y
Evalia Apostolis F 30y
Andrew Poggi M 35y
Rosie Poggi F 29y
Louis Poggi M 7y
George Morriaty M 38y
Catharine Morriaty F 20y
Nellie Morriaty F 1y
Guiseppe Ponticello F 25y
Ernesta Ponticello F 21y
Esther Ponticello F 0y
Ermelinda Piccoli F 16y
Francesca Piccoli F 21y
Tony Galanda M 24y
Mary Galanda F 20y
Tessie Galanda F 0y
Giovanni Rinaldo M 26y
Joseph Rinaldo M 17y
Dante Luli M 35y
Elveria Luli F 25y
Guiseppe Luli M 5y
Uogo Valenta M 20y

Giovanni Spataforo M 30y
Isabella Spataforo F 38y
Joseph Spataforo M 11y
Rosie Spataforo F 6y
Domenico Spataforo M 4y
Theresa Spataforo F 3y
Carolina Spataforo F 1y
Alfredo Valento M 45y
Chesina Valento F 47y

George Sani M 46y
Angelo Dondero M 42y



http://img340.imageshack.us/i/valente1905.jpg/
really Alfredo birthyear, most probably is the 1854 and not 1860...
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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pink67 » 15 Feb 2011, 14:29

It seems that the correct italian lastname for Alfredo's wife and her brother Dante was Lulli

1902 arrival manfiest for Dante, from Pistoia to NY with his wife and first son Giuseppe:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0006

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby pink67 » 15 Feb 2011, 14:46

suanj wrote:Hi,
here the 1905 census; Hugo (Ugo in italian spell) living with brother in law, Dante LULI, and neighbors are Alfredo and Chesira ( Cesira)


Name: Alfredo Valento
Residence: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Race: W
Gender:
Family Number: 1820
Page Number: 64
Line Number: 47
Film Number: 1428424
Digital Folder Number: 4518299
Image Number: 00273
Household Gender Age
Frank Labertoni M 26y
Theresa Barbaceri F 40y
Adolph Barbaceri M 20y
Silvio Barbaceri M 14y
Giovanna Barbaceri F 17y
Theresa Casazza F 26y
Carlo Capaletti M 18y
Diego Saie M 38y
Mary Saie F 38y
Joseph Saie M 14y
Francesca Saie F 2y
Emanuel Apostolis M 35y
Evalia Apostolis F 30y
Andrew Poggi M 35y
Rosie Poggi F 29y
Louis Poggi M 7y
George Morriaty M 38y
Catharine Morriaty F 20y
Nellie Morriaty F 1y
Guiseppe Ponticello F 25y
Ernesta Ponticello F 21y
Esther Ponticello F 0y
Ermelinda Piccoli F 16y
Francesca Piccoli F 21y
Tony Galanda M 24y
Mary Galanda F 20y
Tessie Galanda F 0y
Giovanni Rinaldo M 26y
Joseph Rinaldo M 17y
Dante Luli M 35y
Elveria Luli F 25y
Guiseppe Luli M 5y
Uogo Valenta M 20y

Giovanni Spataforo M 30y
Isabella Spataforo F 38y
Joseph Spataforo M 11y
Rosie Spataforo F 6y
Domenico Spataforo M 4y
Theresa Spataforo F 3y
Carolina Spataforo F 1y
Alfredo Valento M 45y
Chesina Valento F 47y

George Sani M 46y
Angelo Dondero M 42y

http://img340.imageshack.us/i/valente1905.jpg/
really Alfredo birthyear, most probably is the 1854 and not 1860...
regards,
suanj


Have you noticed that Hugo is listed as Dante's brother in law and that he stated that he was in the U.S. since 8 years (approx arrival year 1897) while Alfred and Cesira stated they were in the U.S since 18 yeras?

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Re: Hugo Valenti

Postby suanj » 15 Feb 2011, 15:30

Hi Laura, no doubts that is the right Hugo Valenti; I know not why he declared that was in USA from 8 years instead of 18 years as the parents; maybe a error on the census, who know.... :roll: ?? lacking the "1" - 18 and not 8...

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