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Dercole Dilemma

Postby Jennifer75 » 12 Feb 2011, 08:39

I'm trying to research my great-great-grandparents. My great-great-grandfather was Andrew (Andrea) Dercole married to Rose, father was Guiseppe Dercole mother was Christina Collachi. My grandmother always said that her mother's family was from Abruzzo, Italy. Andrew was born in Italy in about 1869 according to his death record and came to the states in abt 1880 according to the 1920 census. I know he was in Hazelton, PA in 1907 since my great-great-uncle Carmine Torriano came here and was going to stay with him. According to the census records all of Andrew's kids were born in PA but there's a Naturalization Record for my great-grandmother Christine, so I don't know what to make of this. I can't find any trace of them before the 1920 census with the exception of my great grandparent's marriage license from 1912. There are no birth records for any of the seven kids or any record of Andrew's wife other than on his death record. I've hit a brick wall. Help! In the records they've gone by everything from Darks, to Dark, Darko, Dercole, Dercoli, Dercola, and D'Ercola. So to recap.

Andrew (Andrea) Dercole (Darks)
Born abt 1869 - Italy
Arrived abt 1880
Died 1933

Wife Rose
Father Guiseppe Dercole
Mother Christina Collachi

Children
Minnie, Joseph, Christine, Anna, James, Mary and Margaret
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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby suanj » 12 Feb 2011, 11:37

Hi, I found that Joseph Darks (Giuseppe D'Ercole) married at Teresa Motto ( or Motta) in Chicago in 14 Feb 1915
http://img171.imageshack.us/i/josephdarksmarriage.jpg/

the Joseph first son, Andrew Darks also died in 1947; birthdate 17 Dec 1914 Chicago, IL

Name: Andrew Darks
Titles and Terms (original):
Death Date: 27 Aug 1947
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Race or Color:
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: 1915
Birth Date: 17 Dec 1914
Birthplace: Chicago, Illinois
Father: Joseph Darks

Father's Titles and Terms (original):
Father's Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Mother: Theresa Motto
Mother's Titles and Terms (original):
Mother's Birth Place: Chicago, Illinois
Occupation: Fine Grinder
Residence: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Street Address:
Spouse: Alma
Spouse's Titles and Terms (original):
Spouse's Birthplace:
Burial Date: 30 Aug 1947
Burial Place: Proviso, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery: Mt. Carmel Cemetery
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Digital Folder Number: 4005417
Image Number: 1338
Film Number: 1991637
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: cn 26231
Collection: Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947

by WWI draft registration card, Joseph Darks was born in Hazleton, Luzerne, PA on 23 Mar 1892

http://img717.imageshack.us/i/josephdarkswwi.jpg/
I hope of to find the 1900 census ...
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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby suanj » 12 Feb 2011, 16:14

Hi, maybe I found the 1900 census:
1900 United States Federal Census
about Andrew Deckes
Name: Andrew Deckes
[Andrew Deckro]
Home in 1900: Banks, Carbon, Pennsylvania
[Banks, Carbon, Pennsylvania]
Age: 37
Birth Date: Dec 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1883

Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Rose Deckes
Marriage Year: 1891
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9

Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Deckes 37 imm 1883 paper application
Rose Deckes 24 b. jun 1875 IT; imm. 1886
Joseph Deckes 8 b. mar 1892 PA
Christina Deckes 6 b. nov 1873 PA
Annie Deckes 1 b. aug 1898 PA
James Deckes 1/12 b. apr 1900 PA
Samuel Chest 23 boarder b. jul 1876 IT
Carmine Turin 17 boarder b. jan 1883 IT imm. 1900( Carmine Torriano??)
Lawrence Souale 32 boarder
Frank Tomae 37 boarder
Vinsent Ballets 45 boarder

the boarders are all italians


http://img706.imageshack.us/i/1900andrew.jpg/

Christina married at Michele Torriano; Michele( Michael) I believe that was born in Bojano( also spelled Boiano) currently in Isernia province, Molise region; in the past Bojano was in Campobasso province, Molise; because it was only Campobasso as capital of Molise; but Molise region until 1960s was part of Abruzzo; in effects the old full name of this 2regions( but only 1 in the past) was Abruzzo e Molise.... also D'Ercole is a surname present in Bojano... you think that Torriano and the D'Ercole
coming from same place? It is possible?

Michele Torriano first trip:
First Name: Michele
Last Name: Torriano
Ethnicity: Italy, Campobasso
Last Place of Residence: Boiano
Date of Arrival: Aug 19, 1903
Age at Arrival: 13y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Germania
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0017

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0017
final destination: Hazleton PA, joining at brother Carmine Torriano

maybe the second trip:
First Name: Michele
Last Name: Torriano
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Boiano, Campobosso
Date of Arrival: Jan 14, 1909
Age at Arrival: 19y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Republic
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0021
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0128%2ETIF

in the trip of 1907, Carmine Torriano joining at uncle Andrea D'Ercole in Hazleton, Pa;

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Carmine Torriano
Name: Carmine Torriano
Arrival Date: 20 Jan 1907
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birth Location Other: boiano
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Prinzess Irene


if really Andrew was the uncle, he coming from Bojano also...
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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby PaddyBoy » 12 Feb 2011, 16:26

Hi Jen

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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby Jennifer75 » 12 Feb 2011, 18:14

You're amazing suanj! To answer your question "you think that Torriano and the D'Ercole coming from same place? It is possible?" YES! Michael and Christine were cousins. Christine was told that she had to marry a cousin. I found Ellis Island records for Michael, Michele, Torriano in 1903 and again in 1909. In 1903 he came over with Antonia Torriano, I'm assuming his sister? Then in 1909 he came alone. His brother Carmine Torriano came in 1907 and was going to meet his uncle Andrea (Andrew) D'Ercola and then in 1909 their brother Bartolomea Torriano came here to meet Michael in Greensburg, PA. Then I lose track of everyone until the 1920 census, with the exception of Christine and Michael's marriage. I can tell you who the kids married, I did know about Joseph's son he died in WWII, that's my Uncle John's brother.

Joseph Dercole Married Theresa Motto they had 3 children
Christine Dercole Married Michael Turriano (Torriano) they had 7 children
Anna Dercole Married Frank Rigitano they had 7 children
James Dercole Married Anna (Don't know her maiden name yet) they had 3 children
Mary Dercole Married Nicola Migliore they had 2 children
Minnie Dercole Tronsen haven't found her husband yet
Margaret Dercole Married John Adornetto they had 2 children

I don't know if that helps. I'm still trying to figure out how Christine and Michael were related. Michael's mother's name was Filomena Chiovitti. I found a manifest with a bunch of Chiovittis coming here in 1909. One is a Michael Chiovitti who is the brother in law to a Guiseppe Troiani? I can't read the name well. And it says that Guiseppe's wife Filomena is aboard the Gregorio but I can't find a manifest for it. Do you think this could be Michael's Mother and Father? And her family? Or am I going too far out on a limb?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-1273\\T715-12730613.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=101605080060&name=Michele%26nbsp%3BChiavitti&doa=May+25%2C+1909&port=Naples&line=0023

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\IMAGES\\T715-1273\\T715-12730612.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=101605080060&name=Michele%26nbsp%3BChiavitti&doa=May+25%2C+1909&port=Naples&line=0023
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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby suanj » 12 Feb 2011, 18:34

Hi, Michele Chiavitti going in Toronto, Canada, joining at cousin Liberato Chiavitti... Giuseppe Troiani seeming brother in law of Michele Chiavitti, but maybe the surname is Troiani and not Torriano... the surnames are different....

for to know abt realtionship between Michele Torriano and Cristina D'Ercole ,and also for to make a precise genealogic tree, the better source are Bojano civil records by LDS:

Registri dello stato civile di Bojano (Campobasso), 1809-1910 Bojano (Campobasso). Ufficio dello stato civile
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... di+Bojano+%2 &columns=*,0,0
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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby Jennifer75 » 12 Feb 2011, 18:42

Fantastic! Thank you so much for all your help!
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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby suanj » 12 Feb 2011, 21:19

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Re: Dercole Dilemma

Postby dmrjm1124 » 24 Sep 2012, 05:53

Hi Jennifer

My name is Debbie and my grandmother on my father's side is Anna Rigitano. I have been trying to trace the Dercole side of my family ancestry and, like you, have been having difficulties! You and I are related down the line as cousins.

Did you happen to find any info on Rose Dercole? Did she die in PA and is buried there? Were Rose and Andrea already married when they arrived from Italy?

I would appreciate any info you may uncover. My dad is the only surviving child of Anna and Frank Rigitano and he knows very little about his family.

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