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Stumped on Tommaso Coppa / Capua / Caupa

Postby wasson23 » 09 Mar 2011, 18:02

Hi everyone,
I hope you have some great ideas for me. We have been researching this for YEARS and I'm so new to genealogy that I am pretty stuck.

My great grandfather came to the US in 1910, and his name was changed. However, I have some documents which list his original name as Tommaso Coppa / Capua / Caupa. He was born November 20, 1888 in Priverno Italy.

A document also states his father as Andrea, and his mother as "Griden'ta Sirsni". Please know that he could not write English, so someone was writing for him as it sounded.

I'm at a dead end with it - we don't know any of our relatives and he didn't speak of his family in Italy at all. He was a quiet man over all.

Does anyone have any ideas? I would be forever grateful.
Looking for my great-grandfathers family from Privero / Piperno Italy: Tommaso Coppa / Capua / Caupa

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Re: Stumped on Tommaso Coppa / Capua / Caupa

Postby Michael31 » 09 Mar 2011, 18:20

Coppola Bruno
04015 Priverno (LT)
Via Casale, 2
tel: 0773 924251

Coppola Ida
04015 Priverno (LT)
Via Casale, 6
tel: 0773 924278


Scoppa Silvana
04017 San Felice Circeo (LT)
Via Grotta Delle Capre, 1
tel: 0773 548532

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Postby Tessa78 » 09 Mar 2011, 18:56

I have some documents which list his original name as Tommaso Coppa / Capua / Caupa.


Can you post the documents? Sometimes we can see or read something you may have missed or misread... :-)


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Postby Italysearcher » 09 Mar 2011, 19:06

Priverno also known as Piperno has civil records back to 1870 and the church has records back to 1600's. Since you have a birthdate I am sure the town can find the record even if the name is off slightly.
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Postby Michael31 » 09 Mar 2011, 19:57

http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... i&dv=Lazio

Circensi Franco
03020 Arnara (FR)
Via Enfeta, 9
tel: 0775 232138

Circensi Ilva
00040 Pomezia (RM)
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Postby suanj » 09 Mar 2011, 20:34

hi,
here the Tommaso CAPUA arrival:

First Name: Tommato (Tommaso)
Last Name: Capna (CAPUA)
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Piperno, Italy
Date of Arrival: Jun 06, 1910
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Duca di Genova
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0016

mother Giacinta in Piperno( aka Priverno) joining at uncle Angelo Picarazzi/o in USA


pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016

Giacinta maine name could be SCISCIONE.

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Postby wasson23 » 09 Mar 2011, 21:47

suanj wrote:hi,
here the Tommaso CAPUA arrival:

First Name: Tommato (Tommaso)
Last Name: Capna (CAPUA)
Ethnicity: Italy, South
Last Place of Residence: Piperno, Italy
Date of Arrival: Jun 06, 1910
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Duca di Genova
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0016

mother Giacinta in Piperno( aka Priverno) joining at uncle Angelo Picarazzi/o in USA


pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016

Giacinta maine name could be SCISCIONE.

All the best,

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Suanj - you may be on to something! You all may be on to something!!

1) I had no idea that Priverno and Piperno were the same place - that is so helpful! I will absolutely write to the churches to find possible records.

Suanj - I have another document that lists his mother as either Gride'nta or Jacinda. As these were written by an American as he spoke, I had no idea if spelling or sound was correct.

This is getting very exciting! I wish I was as good at this as you all are!
Here is a link to the documents I have been referencing:

https://picasaweb.google.com/summerwass ... directlink

Amazing ideas to get me going!!
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Postby suanj » 10 Mar 2011, 06:12

Hi,
Italysearcher, before of me,explained that the old name of Priverno was Piperno.

Jacinda is the pronounce in south italian dialect; Giacinta is the correct spelling; on the documents the surname is Cironi;

for birth certificate request you can write to:
Ufficio di stato civile
Piazza Giovanni XXIII
04015 Priverno (LT)
Italy

email: statocivile @ comune.priverno.latina.it
( NO spaces)

form letter in italian language:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

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Postby Michael31 » 10 Mar 2011, 09:48

Cironi Alessandro
04019 Terracina (LT)
Lido Di Venere, 22
tel: 0773 752762

http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... a&dv=04019

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Postby Tessa78 » 10 Mar 2011, 15:42

Suanj - I have another document that lists his mother as either Gride'nta or Jacinda. As these were written by an American as he spoke, I had no idea if spelling or sound was correct.

Also answered at this thread :-)
http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/view ... tml#155965

Hi suanj :-D Great find with the manifest!!!!

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Postby suanj » 10 Mar 2011, 16:28

thanks Tessa!
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Postby wasson23 » 10 Mar 2011, 17:17

Many thanks to all of you! This is such a phenomenal break through! How do you know what to do? Have you taken a class or course on this? I would like to help people also...
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Postby suanj » 10 Mar 2011, 17:25

just ....so much experience.... good knowdlege of Italian culture.... intuition.... and trying with ability ....
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Postby wasson23 » 06 May 2011, 22:26

HI everyone,
I wanted to give you a follow up - the link to your site and Certificate request form was SO HELPFUL.
I used the form you provided the link to, I wrote to the Priverno office and received such a fast response! I received his birth certificate and all of the information and "leads" you provided about his name and spelling were exactly right!!
I just wanted to stop by to say how thankful I am for your assistance! :D :D :D

Now... my next mission will be to locate the same kind of documents for his parents. I have their names now!

Thank you again!
Looking for my great-grandfathers family from Privero / Piperno Italy: Tommaso Coppa / Capua / Caupa


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