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Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby bostoncat » 15 Mar 2011, 09:55

My ggrandfather, Michael Coragliotti, was born in 1843, Bosconero. He immigrated to Upper Michigan sometime between 1869-1873 and worked in the mines. I can't locate him on a ship from Ellis Island and was wondering if anyone had other listings for ships. I believe he probably left from a port in France and came down through Canada.

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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby princessbubbles_1 » 15 Mar 2011, 10:57

Hello and welcome,
Here is a link to a website that lists other sites to find records.
Hope this helps.

http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/immig ... ndex.shtml
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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Mar 2011, 12:03

The problem with such very old records is that even if they do exist, they provide little useful information as they are little more than a list of names and country (not city) of origin.

I did a quick search at Ancestry . com and came up dry. Even today, it is a very rare name in Italy, with just six listings in the Italian telephone directory, all in the Torino area: http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... i&dv=&l=en

Note that one of these, Angelo, is actually in Bosconero.
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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Mar 2011, 12:19

1880 Michigan census; could these be Michele's parents?

1880 United States Federal Census about Louie Coragliotti
Name: Louie Coragliotti
Home in 1880: Red Jacket, Houghton, Michigan
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Mary Coragliotti
Father's birthplace: Italy
Mother's birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeping Saloon
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members: Name Age
Louie Coragliotti 52
Mary Coragliotti 46
Maderick Danville 35

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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Mar 2011, 12:25

I see a few people on Ancestry . com tracking this same family. Are you one of them? If not, it may be worth trying to make contact and sharing info.
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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby bostoncat » 15 Mar 2011, 18:11

Thank you for the web site princessbubbles--got my fingers crossed that my elusive ggrandfather or his relative is at Olive Tree :)

I am guessing that Louie is an uncle or brother to ggrandfather, they are a bit too young to be Michael's parents, at any rate, with the last name of Coragliotti, I know for sure he's a realitive! lol

Yes, I have been in contact with those searching for the same surname on Ancestry and have given them the info I have on the family name a couple of years ago, but there is nothing new I or they have to add to help each other. Love ancestry.

For the past 4 months I've been corresponding with and exchanging info with an individual with the last name of Coragliotto in Bosconero. He will be making his second trip to the Registry at the end of April. When he sends me any info he finds, I am heading back to the Family Search Center, haven't been there for about 3 years, so it's time to re-search the Bosconero records.

Thank you both for responding to my post!

BTW...I just ordered the book "Los Angeles's Little Italy" by Mariann Gatto, I should get it in about two weeks, and if anyone is searching for family from southern CA, I'll share any info from the book :)

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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby suanj » 17 Mar 2011, 17:22

I found the 1880 census, maybe you already have it; the surname is spelled Carlotti, but no doubts that is the right Coragliotti family:

1880 United States Federal Census
about Michael Carlotti
Name: Michael Carlotti
Home in 1880: Calumet, Houghton, Michigan
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Birthplace: Italy

Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Mary Carlotti
Father's birthplace: Italy
Mother's birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Miner
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Carlotti 37
Mary Carlotti 37
Mary Carlotti 12
Frank Carlotti 3
Michael Carlotti 6
Amide Carlotti 8m

Peter Brico 35 boarder
Andrew Dermina 31 "
Matilda Dermina 27 "
Ida Dermina 1 "

by my search the family was:

Michele Coragliotti b. 1843 IT- spouse Maria Castelletto b. 1843 IT

children:
1. Mary Coragliotti b. 1868 IT- spouse: John Andrew Baima; children:
Margaret Mary Baima
Delphine Angela Baima

2. Michael Coragliotti b. 5 Oct 1875 Calumet, MI- spouse: Annie/ Georgiana Loucks on 10 Mar 1902 in Dunbar, Marinette, Wisconsin; children:
Alvin Coragliotti b. abt 1904
Florence Coragliotti b. 13 Feb 1903 Dunbar, Marinette, Wisconsin; d. 14 Sep 1903 Dunbar, Wisconsin
Clyde M Coragliotti b. 13 February 1907 Idaho; d. 29 November 1993 Sonoma, California
Donald Coragliotti b. 1910 CA
Jerald Coragliotti b. 1913 CA
Vergil Coragliotti b. 1915 CA

3 and 4. twins:
-Maggie Coragliotti b.13 Sep 1876 Calumet, Houghton, Michigan -d. 05 Oct 1876 Calumet, Houghton, Michigan;

-Antoine Coragliotti b.13 Sep 1876 Calumet, Houghton, Michigan-d. 03 Oct 1876 Calumet, Houghton, Michigan

5. Frank Coragliotti b. 4 Oct 1877 Calumet, MI-d. 17 Aug 1951 Ellensburg, Kittitas, Washington; spouse: Agnes Ragotti

6. Amedeo-aka Emmett Coragliotti b. 12 Oct 1879 Calumet, Houghton, Michigan-spouse: Marie Hamas on 28 Jun 1905 in Iron Mountain, Dickinson, MI

the next record that I found is by Schedules of the Michigan State Census of 1894 and Mary( Michael wife) maybe it was decesead):

Meile* Coragliotte 46 Italy white Dickinson
Mike Coragliotte 20 Michigan white Dickinson
Rosa Coragliotte 29 Italy white Dickinson
Victor Coragliotte 2 Michigan white Dickinson

* Michele

I know not who is this Rosa, but I believe another wife of Michele, maybe.... so little Victor must be another son...

I said so because also I found another and previous marriage record, and I am positive that is abt Michele Coragliotti sr:

Wisconsin Marriages, 1836-1930

Groom's Name: Mike Coragliott
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Emma Anderson
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 02 Feb 1888
Marriage Place: Fond Du Lac, Wisconsin

Groom's Father's Name: Anton Coragliott
Groom's Mother's Name: Mary Coragliott

Bride's Father's Name: A. Anderson
Bride's Mother's Name: Mary Anderson
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00336-4
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
Source Film Number: 1266973
Reference Number: RN00592

Maria Coragliotti nee Castelletto maybe decesead around 1886/7

I searched abt the arrival and no luck... I believe that the family arrived at Castle Garden port, NY...
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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby bostoncat » 18 Mar 2011, 18:44

Thank you so much suanj!

I have the advantage of my father living with me, he is 95 years old, soon to be 96. Actually, it is for him that I have gotten back into the genealogy :) He has a great interest and has been living with myself & my husband for the past 6 years.

Yes, my great grandfather decided to change his name to Carlotti for awhile...which his sons greatly objected to and it caused a family row lol. My father has said his father spoke of the situation and was disgusted about it for years....none of the other family members went along with the change and I don't think great grandfather continued with it.

Rosa is another member of the extending Coragliotti clan living & working the mines in MI.

Also, my father said that his father used to send money every month to his sister, Angelina, and he thinks it was to Italy, he's not sure though. He remembers the situation from his mother & father discussing it and the times his mother wasn't happy with the situation because of her own children's needs. So goes the family dynamics! lol
He thinks the surname was something like Conforti or Confarti....but not sure and I can find no trace of her in Bosconero YET...this is another of the mysteries I'm working on...so far, doing the genealogy on my Italian family has been a fantastic mystery novel with plenty of twists & turns to keep it exciting and with lots of intrigue! lol

I still haven't found the ship or route my family took to get to MI...I'm thinking it as out of France and to Canada, then probably a smaller vessel across the Great Lakes...and I don't think, at this point there is a transcription of the that type of immigration. I was hoping maybe someone here might know of a site or a book or some other direction I could try, etc? My great grandmother and Angelina more than likely traveled the same route as Louie & Michael (and the others) did.

I'm really excited about the twins...the timing is right, about every two years or less between pregnancies...plus, I'm sure my geat grandmother probably was pregnant between the birth of Frank & the birth of Emmett....may have been miscarriages?? I'll never know.

You've given me a few more clues to search out to unravel the mystery and I'm very grateful :)

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Re: Immigration ships to Michigan between 1869-1873

Postby suanj » 18 Mar 2011, 21:05

Hi Mary maiden name was Castelletto, because by Amedeo birth record:

Name: Amedeo Coralitte
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1879
Birthplace: Calumet, Houghton, Michigan
Gender: Male
Race:
Father's Name: Michael Coralitte
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Gusteletto Coralitte [ = (Mary) Castelletto Coragliotti)
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Age:
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Additional Relatives:
Death Date:
Death Age:
Film Number: 2320569
Digital Folder Number: 4206545
Image Number: 338
Frame Number:
Reference Number: item 1 p 333 rn 7729

and by Michael jr marriage:

Groom's Name: Mike Coragliotti
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace: Red Jacket, Mich.
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Georgina Loucks
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace: Peshtigo, Wis.
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 10 Mar 1902
Marriage Place: Dunbar, Marinette, Wisconsin
Groom's Father's Name: Mike Coragliotti
Groom's Mother's Name: Mary Castelleto ( =Castelletto)
Bride's Father's Name: Nelson Loucks
Bride's Mother's Name: Mary Grant
Groom's Race: White
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: White
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00351-5
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
Source Film Number: 1292023
Reference Number: 1292023 file 02409


abt the immigration... for how much I know abt italian immigration around the 1870s, the arrival was in New York port for the large part; your ancestors was of Piedmont region, and port of imbarcation was or Le Havre in France, or Genova, Italy..
the problem is that the Michele surname can be very mispelled... for that I cannot find it....
until 1900 I found only this Coragliottis:
CORAGLIOTTI D. age 30 MALE FARMER UNKNOWN ITALY U SAN-FRANCISCO
Ship Port of Departure Date of Arrival
LA BRETAGNE HAVRE 02/25/1889

CORAGLIOTTI DOMENICO age 22 MALE LABORER NO ITALY BORGONERO MICHIGAN
Ship Port of Departure Date of Arrival
LA TOURAINE HAVRE 05/27/1900

CORAGLIOTTI MARCO age 28 MALE LABORER UNKNOWN ITALY LOS ANGELES CA
Ship Port of Departure Date of Arrival
LA GASCOGNE HAVRE 02/10/1896

CARAGLIOTTE DOMENICA age 24 FEMALE CULTIVATOR UNKNOWN ITALY USA
Ship Port of Departure Date of Arrival
AMERIQUE HAVRE 10/15/1883

and maybe this record with surname mispelled:

PAGLIATOTTI ANTONIO age 22 MALE STUDENT/SCHOLASTIC READ & WRITE ITALY BOSCONERO LOS ANGELES CA
Ship Port of Departure Date of Arrival
LA BRETAGNE HAVRE 08/16/1900

It is hard to find the immigration of Michele Coragliotti... after so deep search no luck...
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