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Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby bhambamababe » 28 Mar 2011, 14:01

My great great grandfather was born in Turin, Italy about 1870. He immigrated in the mid 1890's and his Italian name became so distorted that we (his family) are unable to find records. The oldest record that I have is his marriage license..and the name is different on every line. It was written for him at that time because he was unable to read or write. He also had a very heavy Italian accent which made it difficult for American Record keepers to understand. I assume the name on the marriage license is the closest thing to the origional. Is there anyone who would be willing to take a look at this document and help me with what my grandfathers Italian name would have been?

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby misbris » 28 Mar 2011, 16:30

The document is too small for me to read. Why don't you just give us the varied spellings and perhaps someone can figure it out. We are pretty good at puzzles. :wink:

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby liviomoreno » 28 Mar 2011, 17:34

A larger image would also help.

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Postby adelfio » 28 Mar 2011, 18:03

His first name looks like CONCETTINA and last Stefheno maybe Steffano married Paula Smith

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Postby lilbees » 28 Mar 2011, 18:06

Looks more like Constantine.

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby Andy » 28 Mar 2011, 19:29

Another thing to consider is that if his name was copied from a document
written in Italy, many time the surname is witten first, then the given name.
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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby bhambamababe » 28 Mar 2011, 19:34

Name wouldve been given verbally but in a Heavy Italian accent. I would think the name is written first then last because the wifes name is written first then last. All I can make is is something along the lines of Concordiano Stephano. I appreciate any and all input. Thank you all so much.

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 28 Mar 2011, 20:02

Really, this is one of those situations where anything is possible.

If you simply ask an American for his name, he will likely reply "John Smith".

However, if you ask the same question of an Italian - especially in a formal or official environment - he will probably reply "Smith John". It is the way things are done in Italy. The person doing the asking, perhaps not familiar with Italian names, might assume he was giving firstname-lastname. My grandparents are listed a US census under the name "Jessup" for exactly that reason - his first name was Giuseppe; apparently the census taker could not make heads nor tails out of the two names and decided the family name was Jessup and wrote my grandfather's real last name in the space reserved for first names. I located that census by going through the entire town census for that year, page-by-page. :)


It would be very helpful if you were to post a larger image of your document(s). If you are having trouble with this site's limitations on image upload size, try posting to a third-party site like http://postimage.org and then paste the "Thumbnail for Forums (1)" link into a message here in this forum.
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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

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Postby jamiecapaldi » 28 Mar 2011, 20:27

I would go with Carmine on the Last name first and first name last.

I also believe his name might be Stefano Concordia.

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby bhambamababe » 28 Mar 2011, 20:35

My cousin just shared a new story with me.. there was a story that Papa always told us about when Grandpa went to get a job in the mines. When they tried to get his name he kept telling them " G...I...O" like he was spelling it, have you heard that story

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby bhambamababe » 28 Mar 2011, 20:39

Could it be Giovanni Stephanie?

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 28 Mar 2011, 21:00

Check out this census - 1900, three years after the marriage; Walker County, Alabama (same as marriage):

1900 United States Federal Census about Save R Concord
Name: Save R Concord
[Stive Concord]
[Save Concord]
Home in 1900: Carbon Hill, Walker, Alabama
[Carbon Hill, Walker, Alabama]
Age: 33
Birth Date: Mar 1867
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1892
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Parilee Concord
Marriage Year: 1897
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 3
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Save R Concord 33
Parilee Concord 22
James L Concord 2
Margret A Concord 2/12 (means 2 months)

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Re: Need Help Reading an Italian Name

Postby bhambamababe » 28 Mar 2011, 21:08

Yes I have all of those. I just thought the older document would be closer to the Real Italian Name.?!?!?


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